hmmm wrote: » It's not that much of an emergency that we are going to be injecting grandma with something that hasn't been approved by an EU regulator. It's an obviously ridiculous idea, it's up there with Trump wondering why we didn't just inject some bleach.
Hobgoblin11 wrote: » usual sorry Irish state
Hobgoblin11 wrote: » Ireland has so much big pharma in the country but no power over what they produce , usual sorry Irish state
Azatadine wrote: » Why on earth would the state have an input into corporate pharma and what those companies produce?
mick087 wrote: » Then deaths will rise, and you wont need approval by an EU regulator for this because Covid will insist.
ACitizenErased wrote: » A large proportion of the vulnerable population (older people in particular) are vaccinated so deaths likely won't rise above levels we've seen in the past again lets be honest
hmmm wrote: » We don't inject people with unapproved medicines. Full stop. Neither do we rely on data that hasn't been checked by the regulator, and we don't let any old plant anywhere in the world produce medicines. When we inject someone with something that hasn't been approved and it ends up killing them or they grow another arm, we'll have the loudmouths looking for inquiries long after Covid is only a memory and asking how this was allowed to happen.
astrofool wrote: » The UK has blocked exports and no one has stopped their supply of materials, should the EU do the same as the UK? Simple question.
jackryan34 wrote: » Your usually very calm hmmm What's set you off tonight?
mick087 wrote: » If we are honest we don't really have a clue long-term. We are all banking on the vaccines working well and people are getting panicky about the slow roll out.
hmmm wrote: » We don't inject people with unapproved medicines. Full stop. Neither do we rely on data that hasn't been checked by the regulator, and we don't let any old manufacturing plant anywhere in the world produce medicines. When we inject someone with something that hasn't been approved and it ends up killing them or they grow another arm, we'll have the loudmouths looking for inquiries long after Covid is only a memory and asking how this was allowed to happen.
ACitizenErased wrote: » We're not banking on the vaccines working well, we know they work well
brickster69 wrote: » Just get it in your brain. Say it slowly and repeat. The UK has not blocked exports, the UK has not blocked exports. You are blaming a Country and not the company for delays.
mick087 wrote: » Yes excellent outstanding but we don't have enough at this moment in time of the approved vaccines.
astrofool wrote: » Should the EU block the export of vaccines produced in EU manufacturing plants the same as the UK has done? It's a yes/no question, and it's fine if you want to refuse to answer it, but everyone knows why you are refusing to answer it.
ACitizenErased wrote: » So you want us to get an unapproved vaccine? Thanks, but no thanks.
Micky 32 wrote: » I see the USA vaccinating 2.15 milion a day the last 7 days.
jackryan34 wrote: » With that knowledge How do you see Winter 21/22 going with 3 million adults vaccinated here and no restrictions? The other 2 million of the population in Ireland are children, pregnant women, allergies, anti vaxxers btw, i'm assuming pregnant women and children won't have a vac available to them Can you use that knowledge to have an educated guess on hospitalisatons, cases per day, deaths etc I'd like to see your projections of what a working well vaccine can do
Danzy wrote: » Certainly not high enough to warrant another lockdown or restrictions.
jackryan34 wrote: » I know its an ask But we had all these models showing us what would happen without restrictions when we had no vaccine. Now we have a vaccine and we know they work I'd like to see a real world model of how it looks with no restrictions, 60% of population vaccinated and winter conditions Has anyone seen such a model? Not a Utopian model with 100% of people vaccinated A real world that includes anti vaxxers, kids, pregnant women etc I think 60% total population vaccinated is very realistic for us this winter 21/22
Micky 32 wrote: » The poster fails to realise or understand ( or is just trolling)that the ones that will be vaccinated are the ones that the lockdown/restrictions were for.
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