stefanovich wrote: » There is also a politico article I posted numerous times where they compare the contracts and conclude that the UK one was tougher. You'll have to admit that increased chance of successful litigation by the UK government helped at least.
is_that_so wrote: » Eventually you're going to have to come out from behind the contract in your very thinly disguised anti EU spiels. It may have been a point two months ago but waving it as an excuse for continued poor deliveries, now into Q2 as well, suggests you're not joining the dots very well.
stephenjmcd wrote: » Some of the key points so far from this mornings health committee with HSE - Paul Reid - "Initially expecting 1.24m doses to arrive in Q1, now likely to be 1.1m (175,000 expected last day of March), original target of 1.24m doses expected to be fulfilled in the first week of April" - Reid - "J&J projection still just over 600k doses in Q2, smaller numbers from mid April & then increasing throughout the quarter" -Colm Henry - "About 160,000 in Cohort 4 - aiming is to get the substantive majority vaccinated in March" - Reid "It has been a very frustrating quarter, I do think the next quarter will see some swings and roundabouts with suppliers" - but overall a boost. Few digs at AZ also, for example, "Once we get the supply, we administer it in a very efficient manner... if we don't get a supply (like 64,000 of AstraZeneca of Friday week last), it impacts us immediately (for the Saturday/Sunday)"
KrustyUCC wrote: » 1.1million doses is 600,000 off the original target of 1.7m which is a very significant difference in Q1 Shows how volatile supply has been Can see progress on vaccination progress being used by the government and NPHET to not ease restrictions in any meaningful way come Easter
IrishStuff09 wrote: » 10% of the adult population have now been vaccinated with at least one dose
stephenjmcd wrote: » That was addressed by Reid, 1.7m doses was based on advance purchase agreements with manufacturers as we know this changed very early in Q1, this was then adjusted to a target of 1.4m and then lowered again to 1.24m following issues with AZ. To be frank there isn't much of an easing coming in April I wouldn't think anyway, 5k might go, click and collect in and construction, not expecting much else tbh
KrustyUCC wrote: » Yup a long way from the original target That's four changes to expected targets in Q1 alone Reid said plans have changed 15-17 times TBF they can't do anything if vaccines don't arrive Yup was always going to be a small easing of restrictions I'd fear there will be less now that vaccination program is behind even if supplies are meant to be increased in Q2
chrisbonnie wrote: » I know what this guy is saying is probably correct. But it just seems like alot of book passing to. Each month we appear to have the same lines thrown out," oh next month we'll really see a big ramp up in vaccinations", we'll, we're three months into process and it's still moving along relatively slowly. There's going to come a point where they need to be called out on this. You can't keep rehashing the same old excuse and not expect to be questioned on it.
stephenjmcd wrote: » Fair play on the site, it's an excellent resource pooling together information that otherwise would take a bit longer to find.
NeuralNetwork wrote: » I think the issue with AstraZeneca is that it has little experience of anything like this. It’s not a major vaccine maker and it’s not even in the top 10 pharmaceutical companies in terms of size. They’re relying on networks of subcontractors. I think they bit off a lot more than they could chew on this. Most of their capacity outside of Europe seems to be the Serum Institute in India, which is very capable. It seems though like ambitious over promising and under delivering.
timsey tiger wrote: » But irrelevant since they signed the EU contract first.
VonLuck wrote: » What site is that?
stefanovich wrote: » It's a private company with contracts with a number of countries. If there is blame to be levelled I'd be looking at the EC for not properly negotiating their contract. On the one hand people are complaining about vaccine nationalism and the UK forcing AZ to do this or that (not true) but then supporting Italy when they block exports to Australia. If there are issues with the vaccines here I'd say focus on Ireland and Europe.
GeorgeBailey wrote: » When 18-30 year olds who are last on the list see everyone else going about life as normal while they presumably continue to be demonised if they break social distancing rules when they're unvaccinated, how well do you think that will go? And by the way my business is one of those that has continued to be closed for the last 12 months.
User142 wrote: » 18-30 year olds arent the last on the list. 35-54 year olds are last unless some new evidence shows the vaccines aren't preventing transmission.
dublin_paul wrote: » Children, adolescents up to 18 years and pregnant women (to be refined) are last on the list, the 2nd last group are 18-54
eoinbn wrote: » However the government are going to be crucified, and rightly so, in April once people realize that the April numbers aren't going to be much higher than the March numbers.
User142 wrote: » And the 18-54 group is subdivided with the younger cohort prioritised based on their increased sociability
To be fair to the government that ramp up was based on the numbers that AZ were telling them. However the government are going to be crucified, and rightly so, in April once people realize that the April numbers aren't going to be much higher than the March numbers.
JDD wrote: » Has that been confirmed? This is what I worry about. AZ have proven to be completely unreliable so far. Any future projections should take them out of the equation entirely. If get vaccines from them, it should be considered a bonus. Then with the net numbers after AZ have been taken out, we should see whether we can reasonably hit the promise that 80% of adults will get their first jab by end-June. If we can't, then we should start looking to approve JandJ or Novartis on an emergency basis, outside of the EU process, and see what additional vaccines we can secure.
odyssey06 wrote: » At least they have given us something to chew on, worth bearing in mind in criticism of them - unlike the top 3 vaccine manufacturers Sanofi, Merck and GSK whose candidates all failed.
Health Service Executive CEO Paul Reid has said that only 1.1 million vaccine doses are likely to arrive in Ireland in the first three months of this year, against an expectation of 1.24m. He told an Oireachtas Committee on Health that there was a large number of vaccines, around 175,000, expected on the last day of March and delays meant the 1.2m target would not be reached until the first week of April. Mr Reid said that an original figure of 1.7m doses was based on advance purchase agreements with manufacturers. This was then adjusted to a target of 1.4m and then lowered again to 1.24m
trellheim wrote: » ah ffs down another 124,000 fk sake manufacturers fking us around again ( and thats only in the last couple of days, expect this messing to keep going and the number to keep coming down )https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0308/1202788-coronavirus-ireland/
eoinbn wrote: » To be fair to the government that ramp up was based on the numbers that AZ were telling them. However the government are going to be crucified, and rightly so, in April once people realize that the April numbers aren't going to be much higher than the March numbers.
trellheim wrote: » ah ffs down another 124,000 fk sake manufacturers fking us around again ( and thats only in the last couple of days, expect this messing to keep going and the number to keep coming down )
