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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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No anti-vax stuff in this thread - it's to discuss the various vaccines available and how they are getting rolled out, as well as testing procedures

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Elessar

SnuggyBear wrote: »

Haven't been keeping up with the progress. When are the over 70s supposed to be done now?

Mid May for full vaccination.

With the pace it's going it seems like almost everyone in the country is either elderly or has serious health problems.

SnuggyBear

Haven't been keeping up with the progress. When are the over 70s supposed to be done now?

[Deleted User]

NeuralNetwork wrote: »

Is there a particular reason why Ireland opted out of extra Moderna vaccines?

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-countries-moderna-coronavirus-vaccine-order/

“According to the document, 16 countries opted out of the vaccine top-up, including: Poland, Romania, Belgium, Greece, the Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Ireland, Lithuania, Slovenia, Latvia, Estonia, Cyprus, Luxembourg and Malta.”

I think it is right there in the article - the extra doses will be too late - we will have 80% plus of the population vaccinated with Pfizer J&J et al continuing to supply vaccines that will sort the rest of the population. These are not doses that ara available now. It is at least Q3 before they come on stream, by which time Curevac will also be available

stefanovich

NeuralNetwork wrote: »

Is there a particular reason why Ireland opted out of extra Moderna vaccines?

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-countries-moderna-coronavirus-vaccine-order/

“According to the document, 16 countries opted out of the vaccine top-up, including: Poland, Romania, Belgium, Greece, the Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Ireland, Lithuania, Slovenia, Latvia, Estonia, Cyprus, Luxembourg and Malta.”

Not exactly the richest set of countries. Money?

NeuralNetwork

Is there a particular reason why Ireland opted out of extra Moderna vaccines?

https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-countries-moderna-coronavirus-vaccine-order/

“According to the document, 16 countries opted out of the vaccine top-up, including: Poland, Romania, Belgium, Greece, the Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Slovakia, Ireland, Lithuania, Slovenia, Latvia, Estonia, Cyprus, Luxembourg and Malta.”

Nqp15hhu

astrofool wrote: »

I think it's been pretty much wall to wall coverage on slow vaccine rollout and supply chain issues, most comparisons have been with the UK instead of NI, but they happen pretty frequently.

What's important is that the most vulnerable who had the highest % of dying have been vaccinated, we're now building on top of a solid base, the risk drops off exponentially for the groups as we work down, once group 3-6 are done (probably sometime in April), the program is really about stopping the spread and reducing the small remaing % risk of people dying (remembering that each % is a human life for every 100 people who catch the disease).

Northern Ireland is in the U.K. we have the same rate as the rest of the country.

lbj666

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Outstanding results

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1369052893718978560?s=19

News like this is more important in the grander scheme of things than much of the stuff on this thread, never mind the world outside this thread.

political analyst

According to The Sunday Times, thousands of medically vulnerable at risk of severe Covid face prolonged uncertainty over when they'll be vaccinated.

Dr Colm Henry said the task of drafting Cohort 4 wouldn't be completed before the end of March due to the need to contact GPs and consultants and disability groups to identify those at most risk.

At a press briefing last Thursday, Dr Henry said the National Immunisation Advisory Committee's list is highly specific but also there are no disease registries that correspond to these exact definitions and each disease group needs a different method to identify where it is.

Why didn't the HSE consider drawing up a list of vulnerable people before the first dose of a vaccine was even administered in this country?

Micky 32

Cork2021 wrote: »

And Mac n’ chise with another good thread!

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1368921796993556484?s=21

I wonder if this is the reason pandemics don’t last……

Cork2021

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Outstanding results

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1369052893718978560?s=19

And Mac n’ chise with another good thread!

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1368921796993556484?s=21

User142

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Outstanding results

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1369052893718978560?s=19

Hope the Zero Coviders and RTE give these brilliant results as much time as they did trying to get people to doubt the vaccines effectiveness in countering them.

The number of people I knew who would casually say that the vaccines don't work against the variants based on the media coverage at the time was infuriating.

Happydays2020

hynesie08 wrote: »

Who do you propose enforces that?

The business owners - for instance pubs can check id like they do for people under age.

By May a good chunk of our population (the most vulnerable) will be vaccinated. Let them enjoy life - where there is a will there is a way.

stephenjmcd

Outstanding results

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1369052893718978560?s=19

hynesie08

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Yes. And we should start opening up pubs and restaurants and shops etc for everyone who is vaccinated.

Who do you propose enforces that?

Happydays2020

Micky 32 wrote: »

Should Ireland follow this?

https://twitter.com/laoneill111/status/1369004105746776064?s=21

Yes. And we should start opening up pubs and restaurants and shops etc for everyone who is vaccinated.

Micky 32

Should Ireland follow this?

https://twitter.com/laoneill111/status/1369004105746776064?s=21

Happydays2020

degsie wrote: »

Boiling mad! NPHET for the best part of a year demanding us to follow all of their guidelines, which for the most part people have been doing. All we ask in return is a positive vaccine rollout which they are failing at big time!

Curious about this. How many vaccines are in the country that have not yet been administered? How many have received vaccines who should not have been?

crossman47

degsie wrote: »

Boiling mad! NPHET for the best part of a year demanding us to follow all of their guidelines, which for the most part people have been doing. All we ask in return is a positive vaccine rollout which they are failing at big time!

You need to stop boiling. First of all, NPHET have no role in the vaccination process - thats done by the HSE. Secondly, its running well. Vaccines are being administered as soon as we get them.

degsie

Boiling mad! NPHET for the best part of a year demanding us to follow all of their guidelines, which for the most part people have been doing. All we ask in return is a positive vaccine rollout which they are failing at big time!

Micky 32

PTH2009 wrote: »

Let's hope the J&J one dose will be approved by the Eu council this week

Could be the game changer and boost we need

You should take a look at the when will it end thread. Apparently all the vaccines won’t make a difference , lockdowns and restrictions forever. Any data that’s posted about the vaccine efficacy and trials are lies apparently. :rolleyes:

bennyineire

Marhay70 wrote: »

I'm reading this type of thing all the time. "Supplies will be better in February", "It'll ramp up considerably in March" etc. etc. etc. So far all forecasts have been off the mark so, while I'm happy for your optimism, I don't share it.

Have they? If so not by much. Can you provide some evidence to support your assumption?

Marhay70

Deleted User wrote: »

at which point vaccine supply will not be an issue

I'm reading this type of thing all the time. "Supplies will be better in February", "It'll ramp up considerably in March" etc. etc. etc. So far all forecasts have been off the mark so, while I'm happy for your optimism, I don't share it.

[Deleted User]

chrisbonnie wrote: »

https://www.rt.com/russia/517540-italy-eu-sputnik-vaccine-production/

Italy have signed a deal to produce the sputnik vaccine. Interesting times.

If it true we don't have any facilities here in Ireland that can produce vaccines?

“May be up and running by June”, more likely late summer before any scale, at which point vaccine supply will not be an issue

JacksonHeightsOwn

https://www.rt.com/russia/517540-italy-eu-sputnik-vaccine-production/

Italy have signed a deal to produce the sputnik vaccine. Interesting times.

If it true we don't have any facilities here in Ireland that can produce vaccines?

PTH2009

Let's hope the J&J one dose will be approved by the Eu council this week

Could be the game changer and boost we need

trellheim

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Apparently astra zenaca are playing "we said we would get your vaccine in q1 we didn't say when in q1 you would get it" and promising massive delivery on 31 March so they can say they met their targets.

Its not going to be 1.2 million vaccines in arms.

I am well aware. AZ have missed their targets several times ( as pointed out by Stephen Donnelly in the Dail last Thursday).

Based on past performance I don't see any evidence they will make the 720,000 delivery target for march. Which is disappointing. But if they do, happy days. As I pointed out up thread its averaging 6-7 days from delivery to shot which can only come down.

Dressoutlet

Micky 32 wrote: »

To expand on that :

https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1368955846483402753?s=21

And there's still people saying there's no point taking the vaccine because they don't stop transmission.
If you don't have to test or isolate after being exposed it means you either aren't going to catch it or aren't going to pass it on.
I can't wait to remind all the tin foil hat wearers of their stupidity in a few years. Remember how you said we would be in lockdown forever, remember you said it was just about control, remember you never admitted you were wrong!!

irishgeo

chrisbonnie wrote: »

Whoever is chairing that meeting should have walked down and given him an open handed slap across the face.

What kind of moron would ask that.....

Because we didn't know if any vaccine would work.

JacksonHeightsOwn

lbj666 wrote: »

Fergal Bowers at the press conference now "why did we order more vacines than needed for our population".... jesus wept.

Whoever is chairing that meeting should have walked down and given him an open handed slap across the face.

What kind of moron would ask that.....

lbj666

Fergal Bowers at the press conference now "why did we order more vacines than needed for our population".... jesus wept.