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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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No anti-vax stuff in this thread - it's to discuss the various vaccines available and how they are getting rolled out, as well as testing procedures

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Pete_Cavan

Nqp15hhu wrote: »

Don’t take the vaccines then.

Take them, they haven't even been offered yet and may never be!

Nqp15hhu

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Arlene is playing for political points and to win sympathy, anyone who thinks otherwise is way too naive

Don’t take the vaccines then.

Nqp15hhu

NeuralNetwork wrote: »

We don't need to be 'given' vaccines, but we could probably look at working with the UK on sourcing if the EU programme is genuinely not delivering the goods at sufficient speed.

Having a huge difference in vaccinations rates on the same island is risky.

I don't see this as any different to us offering to help NI with PPE when Westminster let them down, which we did.

I worry this will be used as an excuse to keep us in NI in lockdown after all are vaccinated

stefanovich

Kiith wrote: »

Ah jesus christ...plot our exit? You really have no idea what you are talking about if you think leaving the EU is the right move.

I don’t believe this qualifies as an argument. “If you think we should leave the EU you are ignorant.”

If you want to convince people try convincing them, not insulting them.

wes

NeuralNetwork wrote: »

We don't need to be 'given' vaccines, but we could probably look at working with the UK on sourcing if the EU programme is genuinely not delivering the goods at sufficient speed.

Its in there best interests to sell us spare vaccines, once they are done with their program. I imagine if the vaccine supply chain issue does not improve, that is what will happen.

NeuralNetwork

We don't need to be 'given' vaccines, but we could probably look at working with the UK on sourcing if the EU programme is genuinely not delivering the goods at sufficient speed.

Having a huge difference in vaccinations rates on the same island is risky.

I don't see this as any different to us offering to help NI with PPE when Westminster let them down, which we did.

josip

expectationlost wrote: »

my parents are over 75 and have heard nothing, so over over 70s are not being done currently.

My mother is 84 and hasn't been contacted by her GP since being given what seems like a placeholder appointment of April 5th.
It's no big banana if it takes another couple of weeks or if Mary down the road who's 82 gets it the week before her.

[Deleted User]

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

AstraZeneca shortfalls. The coming week will be a bit slower but the following week is going to be bumper apparently.

Apparently.

Wolf359f

expectationlost wrote: »

my parents are over 75 and have heard nothing, so over over 70s are not being done currently.

You were talking about over 85+ now you're talking about over 70+
Cohort 4 are being given a different vaccine than the 70+, so Cohort roll out has no impact on the over 70+ getting vaccinated.

expectationlost

Wolf359f wrote: »

Yes... before you try bitch and moan about something, do some research.

my parents are over 75 and have heard nothing, so over over 70s are not being done currently.

expectationlost

astrofool wrote: »

Groups roll out simultaneously due to logistics in getting vaccines to some in an earlier group. AZ still being kept to younger age group, so all going on HCW or vulnerable young.

that headlines make it look like category 3 has been done already.

Wolf359f

expectationlost wrote: »

are they?

Yes... before you try bitch and moan about something, do some research.

eoinbn

expectationlost wrote: »

not even all the over 85 have been vaccinated yet?

they haven't done category 3 yet, why are they talking about category 4

Cat 3 are getting mRNA, cat 4 are getting AZ. No reason to wait until cat 3 are finished.

expectationlost

Wolf359f wrote: »

Cohort 3 will be using mRNA vaccines, Cohort 4 will use AZ. They are doing both currently.

are they?

[Deleted User]

Is anyone buying or selling Sputnik V?

Wolf359f

expectationlost wrote: »

not even all the over 85 have been vaccinated yet?

they haven't done category 3 yet, why are they talking about category 4

Cohort 3 will be using mRNA vaccines, Cohort 4 will use AZ. They are doing both currently. Or would you rather wait until the last person in Cohort 3 is vaccinated before going on to Cohort 4?

astrofool

expectationlost wrote: »

not even all the over 85 have been vaccinated yet?

they haven't done category 3 yet, why are they talking about category 4

Groups roll out simultaneously due to logistics in getting vaccines to some in an earlier group. AZ still being kept to younger age group, so all going on HCW or vulnerable young.

eoinbn

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

AstraZeneca shortfalls. The coming week will be a bit slower but the following week is going to be bumper apparently.

I assume a bumper week will be one where they actually deliver what they said they were doing to deliver? That would only be the 2nd time they will have achieved that - the other week was when they said they would not be delivering any vaccines and they managed to follow through.

expectationlost

Zhane wrote: »

What exactly do you think is Bull****?

Everyone knows the vulnerable are being vaccinated first, and rightly so.

not even all the over 85 have been vaccinated yet?

they haven't done category 3 yet, why are they talking about category 4

Zhane

expectationlost wrote: »

Covid in Ireland: HSE say ill to get jab next with eldest almost fully vaccinated https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-in-ireland-hse-say-ill-to-get-jab-next-with-eldest-almost-fully-vaccinated-n6g0n3mhj what is this bull****?

What exactly do you think is Bull****?

Everyone knows the vulnerable are being vaccinated first, and rightly so.

expectationlost

Covid in Ireland: HSE say ill to get jab next with eldest almost fully vaccinated https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/covid-in-ireland-hse-say-ill-to-get-jab-next-with-eldest-almost-fully-vaccinated-n6g0n3mhj

Covid-19: Vaccination for those aged 16-69 with serious illnesses ‘will start this week’, says HSE
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccination-for-those-aged-16-69-with-serious-illnesses-will-start-this-week-says-hse-1.4503552

what is this bull****? not even all the over 85 have been vaccinated yet!

how many over 70s have had they first shot?

IRISHSPORTSGUY

Deleted User wrote: »

They're over 20% and going at a far faster rate than the rest of Europe. We were aiming to do 100k 2 weeks ago, after 2 weeks of just over 80k we've now lowered the target for next week to 84k. The inertia is absolutely incredible.

AstraZeneca shortfalls. The coming week will be a bit slower but the following week is going to be bumper apparently.

[Deleted User]

Wolf359f wrote: »

I used the ~ as I don't know the exact figure, maybe you do?
42.2% first dose out of 100%
2.1% second dose out of 100%
So.... 22.15%, does that tie in with your figure?

The UK have been pulling back on vaccinations also, they peaked and now they are slowing down, for the very same reason as us.... supplies!

They're basically a quarter of the way through it. Their supplies will ramp up the same as ours will. But they're currently going a good bit more than twice as fast as us as things stand. They're getting further ahead.

Wolf359f

Deleted User wrote: »

They're over 20% and going at a far faster rate than the rest of Europe. We were aiming to do 100k 2 weeks ago, after 2 weeks of just over 80k we've now lowered the target for next week to 84k. The inertia is absolutely incredible.

I used the ~ as I don't know the exact figure, maybe you do?
42.2% first dose out of 100%
2.1% second dose out of 100%
So.... 22.15%, does that tie in with your figure?

The UK have been pulling back on vaccinations also, they peaked and now they are slowing down, for the very same reason as us.... supplies!

[Deleted User]

Wolf359f wrote: »

The UK are ~20% through their vaccination program and people are going on like they have vaccines all done and dusted and going outta date in a massive fridge somewhere.

This whole notion about the UK giving Ireland spare doses just seems to be gaslighting from some media.

They're over 20% and going at a far faster rate than the rest of Europe. We were aiming to do 100k 2 weeks ago, after 2 weeks of just over 80k we've now lowered the target for next week to 84k. The inertia is absolutely incredible.

Micky 32

https://twitter.com/laoneill111/status/1368671496558764035?s=21

Klonker

The UK could be willing to give us some vaccines after all their adults who want it have received both doses at which case we'll hopefully not be too far behind. If they offered before that it would be a huge own goal politically for the Tory government in my opinion.

Deeper Blue

tara2k wrote: »

They will be. I'm going to bookmark this post for later on in the year. Keep an eye on MM etc in the media over the next few weeks.

You seriously think we'll have lockdowns for the likes of the flu or other non-covid illnesses?

I'm sorry but that's lunacy and anyone that genuinely believes that needs their head examined.

Tippbhoy1

User1998 wrote: »

They ordered 150 million vaccines. I was being very conservative with a 200,000 hand out, as long as we vaccinated those at the border counties it would greatly benefit NI

The Eu have 2bn+ ordered. The Uk, like the EU, will have a surplus eventually. The point is it’s unlikely the UK will have them any time soon.
(The Uk have more than 150m ordered btw)

Micky 32

tara2k wrote: »

They will be. I'm going to bookmark this post for later on in the year. Keep an eye on MM etc in the media over the next few weeks.

No there won’t be unless there’s another pandemic. I’m going to bookmark this post also