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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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No anti-vax stuff in this thread - it's to discuss the various vaccines available and how they are getting rolled out, as well as testing procedures

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average_runner

seamus wrote: »

What GPs are saying is anecdotal. 5 GPs on twitter who have had supplies cancelled, doesn't prove there's an issue.

There are 1,000 individual practices around the country who are to receive vaccines. The most recent source I can find suggests there are about 30 practices who have missed deliveries or not been scheduled yet.

That means 97% of practices have received deliveries on schedule. That's excellent in my book.

Which is why Twitter is not a reliable narrator. 30 GPs on Twitter, with 100 comments/retweets each makes a lot of noise. A lot more than is warranted.

They're publishing the data. There's nothing being hidden.

Wouldn't be the first time they hid data!!!!!!!!!!!

Scuid Mhór

What are people’s ETA’s for the various cohorts. Would late April be feasible for cohort 7?

Micky 32

More great news RTE:

The impact of the vaccination roll-out on healthcare workers has been described as "phenomenal".

Professor Mary Horgan, President of the Royal College of Physicians of Ireland and Infectious Diseases Consultant at Cork University Hospital, said people should take hope from "the fact that vaccines are working".

Speaking on RTÉ's Today with Claire Byrne, Prof Horgan said she understands that people are frustrated with the pace of the roll-out, but the programme in the community will speed up, as was the case after the initial rollout in hospitals.

She said the numbers of healthcare workers becoming infected with Covid-19 "just turned off" last month.

It's been phenomenal. We were tracking the number of healthcare workers infected from January into February and essentially it just turned off in February, and likewise the number of hospital admissions."

Prof Horgan, who is a member of the National Public Health Emergency Team, said the decline in cases is not linked solely to the decrease of infection in the community, but due to the effectiveness of the vaccine.

timsey tiger

Micky 32 wrote: »

More great news RTE:

The impact of the vaccination roll-out on healthcare workers has been described as "phenomenal".

Professor Mary Horgan, President of the Royal College of Physicians of Ireland and Infectious Diseases Consultant at Cork University Hospital, said people should take hope from "the fact that vaccines are working".

Speaking on RTÉ's Today with Claire Byrne, Prof Horgan said she understands that people are frustrated with the pace of the roll-out, but the programme in the community will speed up, as was the case after the initial rollout in hospitals.

She said the numbers of healthcare workers becoming infected with Covid-19 "just turned off" last month.

It's been phenomenal. We were tracking the number of healthcare workers infected from January into February and essentially it just turned off in February, and likewise the number of hospital admissions."

Prof Horgan, who is a member of the National Public Health Emergency Team, said the decline in cases is not linked solely to the decrease of infection in the community, but due to the effectiveness of the vaccine.

I wonder will we ever find out what proportion of cases arose in the health care system. Probably a politically incorrect question to ask.

is_that_so

average_runner wrote: »

It is when you have the GP's themselves saying it. Why would the GP's lie?

Is the HSE a valid source of info these days?

I was optimistic about it, but too many failings happening now

What you believe is also down to who you want to believe. Social media is notoriously unreliable and many a media story has stretched information to claim a problem is widespread. We've had many sources of outrage during this and vaccines are just one more. They're a good ongoing target as supply issues can almost be guaranteed to throw plans out for the next month at least.

eigrod

eigrod wrote: »

My Dad is 94 and hasn’t been vaccinated yet. Rural east Cork.

Update to my previous post above, my Dad got his 1st shot this morning. All went well. He didn’t know which one he got when I rang him. Appointment made for 2nd shot on 1st April.

bullvine

My 80 year old Mum got hers on Tuesday, in and out in 15 mins.

funnydoggy

The snowball effect is well and truly in place

it's amazing to think that one quick 2 second jab can eliminate a pandemic. Unbelievable.

[Deleted User]

Did anyone from Cohort 4 get an appointment yet with it due to begin Monday, would they be contacting those people now?

humberklog

eigrod wrote: »

Update to my previous post above, my Dad got his 1st shot this morning. All went well. He didn’t know which one he got when I rang him. Appointment made for 2nd shot on 1st April.

It'll say it on the pamphlet he's been given to take home. I'd the same with my parents too.

Infoseeker1975

My Dad & MIL both got their first dose last Monday [80-84yrs]. My mum is getting her 1st dose tomorrow [75yrs though with several underlying conditions].

[Deleted User]

Its all over Newstalk this lunchtime that lots and lots of people in the over 85 cohort, more in their 90's and even a 100 year old woman are still not vaccinated and still have no idea whatsoever when they will get one! No communication or else cancelled appointments. These are in Wicklow, Mayo, Limerick, Cavan and other counties. Not the fault of the GP but the HSE needs to explain this. ALL that age group should be vaccinated BEFORE someone who is 59 0r 60!

(Meanwhile a local health practitioner is having his staff vaccinated this morning and bringing in his 59 year old wife as part of his staff for her vaccine too! )

Corruptedmorals

A great thing about the community rollout is that the GP's and others making up the vaccine doses will get more experienced and get the 7th dose out of the vials more often. That's what happened in the hospitals and is why some had extra doses. Not sure if this applies to Astrazeneca but it definitely does with Pfizer. Hopefully it will make an impact by getting through the next levels more quickly.

I'm one month post second dose of Pfizer, still have swollen glands. Had a tough time with the second dose but good to see it working so well getting a reaction.

hynesie08

Deleted User wrote: »

Its all over Newstalk this lunchtime that lots and lots of people in the over 85 cohort, more in their 90's and even a 100 year old woman are still not vaccinated and still have no idea whatsoever when they will get one! No communication or else cancelled appointments. These are in Wicklow, Mayo, Limerick, Cavan and other counties. Not the fault of the GP but the HSE needs to explain this. ALL that age group should be vaccinated BEFORE someone who is 59 0r 60!

(Meanwhile a local health practitioner is having his staff vaccinated this morning and bringing in his 59 year old wife as part of his staff for her vaccine too! )

That's how you turn a 6 month rollout into 3 years....

josip

Deleted User wrote: »

Its all over Newstalk this lunchtime that lots and lots of people in the over 85 cohort, more in their 90's and even a 100 year old woman are still not vaccinated and still have no idea whatsoever when they will get one! No communication or else cancelled appointments. These are in Wicklow, Mayo, Limerick, Cavan and other counties. Not the fault of the GP but the HSE needs to explain this. ALL that age group should be vaccinated BEFORE someone who is 59 0r 60!

For these specific cases, I would fault the GPs for not having communicated with their patients, not the HSE.

funnydoggy

Mammydoggy just told me Stephen Donnelly in the Dáil just said group 4 are starting next week..?

hynesie08

funnydoggy wrote: »

Mammydoggy just told me Stephen Donnelly in the Dáil just said group 4 are starting next week..?

Yep.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1367466065081618438?s=20

funnydoggy

hynesie08 wrote: »

Yep.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1367466065081618438?s=20

Holy god above this is moving so fast! Thanks!

stephenjmcd

Indeed group 4 kicking off next week using AZ. Hospitals should have a decent record of this group & looks like it'll be the hospital clinics that carry out the vacinations for this group.

As usual don't contact us, we'll contact you for anyone in this group.

ACitizenErased

Deliveries:
https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1367468223797542913?s=20

Icantthinkof1

funnydoggy wrote: »

Holy god above this is moving so fast! Thanks!

Just wanted to say I always enjoy your posts- you’re always so positive!

billyhead

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Indeed group 4 kicking off next week using AZ. Hospitals should have a decent record of this group & looks like it'll be the hospital clinics that carry out the vacinations for this group.

As usual don't contact us, we'll contact you for anyone in this group.

Are the 75-80 not the next batch to be vaccinated?

Crunchie77

billyhead wrote: »

Are the 75-80 not the next batch to be vaccinated?

They’ll be getting an MRNA vaccine from their GP. Looks like group 4 will be vaccinated concurrently using AZ through the hospital system

stephenjmcd

billyhead wrote: »

Are the 75-80 not the next batch to be vaccinated?

80-84 through GP.

Parallel rollout so it's not just one group at a time

[Deleted User]

^^ Hopefully my folks get the call next week as they're in this group. My ma can't wait to get back to doing her weekly shop in Dunnes after 3 weeks from getting the jab.

hynesie08

funnydoggy wrote: »

Holy god above this is moving so fast! Thanks!

There MIGHT be a lag when 18-54 are the main group (mostly just because of scale) but yeah, the vaccine train has left the station and its only going one way.....

funnydoggy

hynesie08 wrote: »

There MIGHT be a lag when 18-54 are the main group (mostly just because of scale) but yeah, the vaccine train has left the station and its only going one way.....

All my nearest and dearest are in the very high to high risk so without sounding selfish, it's all good

[Deleted User]

I wonder how this will affect people with high bmi like my father. I am not sure if he has been weighed in the hospital but he has by his gp. I must get onto him again, I have him plagued haha.

lbj666

I am getting the impression that GP maybe booking for everyone over 85 on their system even though some could be on another clinics systems also, hence many many GPs are ending up with surpluses they have to use in slightly younger cohorts and other GPs still waiting for their allocation. Would some GPs even know if some have passed on or now in homes?
Obviously a not unforeseen issue due to the lack of a centralised system.

If we are talking 5-10% of GP still waiting you could see how this maybe a contributory factor.
Aswell suppliers are likely to underfill their order for a given week rather than over so you can see how cancellations.

ACitizenErased

Donnelly confirms NIAC are looking at the UK evidence of AstraZeneca efficacy in over 65s