h2005 wrote: » Ya, I'm calling this out as horse****e. He's a doctor who became Taoiseach. Many things he can be accused of but laziness is probably the least likely!
The Big Easy wrote: » O Tell me that a senior HSE official or cabinet minister with a big house and large garden in the suburbs who continues to travel daily to work, having meetings with colleagues, believing they are working together to overcome the crisis of a generation can easily understand what someone living in a house/apartment share unable to work or leave the house apart from essential exercise.
RoadRunner wrote: » Over the weekend after having a lunch a market at the royal canal like hundreds of others. I later cycled with the little one to visit bull island. We crossed the packed wooden bridge just like hundreds of thousands of other people that day. I didn't go to the spot where the coffee queue normally starts but I've seen that queue over 50 meters when the place was not busy.
That golf is closed for our "safety" is ridiculous.
Miley Byrne wrote: » Off topic I know but if you use the analogy that a team is only as strong as its weakest player then our government is shambolic. Stephen Donnelly and Norma Foley are so out of their depth that it's bordering on criminal that those two head up two of the most important departments in the country. You say €100k? More like €180k plus the pension entitlements. Again sorry I'm off topic but these people tasked with running departments (vitally important departments at the best of times but in Covid times are actually critical to the health and well being of our people) are no where near qualified enough or competent enough to do that particular job. Donnelly is a complete moron ffs
not yet wrote: » Cannot agree with you there, last year I felt extremely safe playing golf, be it a 2 ball or 4 ball, I have walked the Phoenix park dozens of times in the past 6 months and have had joggers sweating like fcuk brush off me, numerous people passing within inches of me.
GreeBo wrote: » "At Level 5, the public health risk means that you will be asked to stay at home, except for travel for work, education or other essential purposes, or to take exercise within 5km of home. " Which bits of your weekend adventures do you reckon were covered under "work", "education", "essential travel" or "exercise"? That you would still choose to go out for a market lunch during a "STAY HOME" advisory is ridiculous imo.
GreeBo wrote: » If only there was some sort of group of servants (perhaps very polite ones?) that could be used in some sort of advisory manner, then the politicians wouldnt have to do all the leg work, investigations and decisions all on their own!
slave1 wrote: » Folks, this is not a COVID forum, please stay on topic, Golf related lockdown discussion only. There is a dedicated COVID forum should you wish to post COVID only comments
Miley Byrne wrote: » Well if there were wouldn't it be a good idea to maybe use them in a way that doesn't make the minister in question look like a moron? Why would a fool have advisers that make him look like a fool?
GreeBo wrote: » Well the ESRI studies are showing that 79% of people think preventing further spread is more important than burden of restrictions...so in whose eyes do they look like fools? The 21% minority? I reckon anyone would take that as a result to be honest, so as already stated, I dont see golf being top of anyone's priority list.
iancairns wrote: » Just curious to know if anyone’s gold clubs have adjusted annual membership fees or if there is any intention. Considering we’ll be probably 5months no golf this year on top of 3months last year. I know our membership fees support the club but surely most clubs would be in excess by now? What are current overheads other than course maintenance? Am I just a tight bastard. I’d just love to know next membership is even couple hundred cheaper. Anything to acknowledge what is going on.
GreeBo wrote: » Course maintenance is kinda a biggie for a golf course! All that equipment is still depreciating and still needs to be maintained, you are just saving some money on the clubhouse gas/electricity and *maybe* some staff. I wouldnt say our expenses have dropped by much at all to be honest, but there is no greenfee or society income coming in at all, so rather than an excess I would expect a loss.
Russman wrote: » Yeah, this exactly. I reckon it will depend on just how dependent each individual club is on green fees / societies to cover their expenses. If its mostly covered by membership subs, they should be ok, if breaking even means they need XX amount of green fees, things could be tight.
Exactly wrote: » There is also no income from competitions in a long time as well. The reality is that the only income source to most Clubs at the moment is the Annual Sub. Take a Club (member run) with 500 members as an example and lets say the Sub is 1K so they take in 500K in subs in a year. And lets say they told Members they would charge them €200 a year less due to them not being able to play Golf for a period of the year, then suddenly their income from Subs falls to €400K. Then add in the shortfall from other areas in the same time period or over the course of the year. and their income could be down 100-200K for the year. As has been mentioned before these are Clubs not run to make a profit but run by the Members for the Members. The outgoings might have reduced a bit but the course still has to be maintained and all Wages and Utilities have to be paid as well as servicing of debts (most Clubs will be paying back a bank loan of some sort). If the Club was to give a discount across the board this year then they would probably be coming to Members during the year or at the AGM looking for a significant increase to get things back on track for the coming years.
GreeBo wrote: » Yeah but it was the same people you were "close" to for those 3/4 hours, that makes a difference afaik. In the park each "pod/bubble" doesnt interact with anyone else and is pretty much constantly moving, with golf we are standing on the tee and green beside each other for a few mins on each hole, so more chance of spreading something.
Luckycharm wrote: » Greebo have you been in Marley near the coffee shop especially, there is plenty of interacting going on. Place is rammed most days and especially w/ends, not to mention the other parks around there.
Break80 wrote: » I got an email from my club Friday. We have increased members times, no restrictions on the amount of golf you play, all greenfee tickets you bought last year to be extended to Oct this year and €200.00 on your card to be spent in the clubhouse, You need to pay in full by middle of March. I think that's very fair.
Seve OB wrote: » Can’t wait to get down and help you out with those green few vouchers;)[/QUOTE When this is done. We will rock on.
Seve OB wrote: » of course he hasn't. I'm not sure he has even left his house as he was very clearly very upset at someone going on a bike ride with their kid.
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