Bit cynical wrote: » Too reliant on restrictions and lockdowns.
Tenzor07 wrote: » Of course, Ireland has issued more fines for travelling outside 5k from home than it has Vaccinated people I'd say.. If fines were vaccines we'd be out of this mess sooner.. sadly when the people of the UK will be attending a gig and having beers with friends, we'll all be still sat at home with the Tv and a can of beer...
jcon1913 wrote: » I never said anything about airports. Of course we'd have to stop people travelling to and from NI. If we are serious about stopping this then that's what we have to do. Why should millions of people ( citizens of Ireland ) experience a form of house arrest only to have people swanning around the country spreading Covid - if you have an answer to this please enlighten us. As for deliveries - we have plenty of drivers here - containers only is the route to go there no roll-on, roll-off allowed - simple really. But if you want to mess about and tell people some BS that you are actually doing something by stopping travellers from 20 countries out of a potential 200 in the world then go right ahead. Don't expect me to fall for it though.
DessieJames wrote: » jesus you need to stop listening to mainstream media and NPHET , it's tragic how many people are absoutely racked with fear and anxiety over all of this, swanning around the country speading covid, thats something you'd ecpect to read in a tabloid newspaper. I'm not sure you fully understand that N.Ireland is part of the UK , you cant just stop people crossong the border, it's not going to happen now or ever, people from both sides of the border travel for a number of different reasons whether tha be work, school,etc , you do realise the implications if the garda suddendly put a ring of steel around the border. you seriously need to look at the acrtual facts surrounding travel, they have uused this as a scapegoart since the very start along with pubs and restaurants, if you cant see this then theres no hope for you.
Deleted User wrote: » I've just seen the North has the equivalent of 1.3 million vaccinated. Even the DUP are making a show of us.
jcon1913 wrote: » So new cases arrive in on the wind? The practicalities of it are that we are farting around play acting only half doing the job. Enough of the BS. stop the lockdown because it’s not a proper effort so why should the whole country suffer building up massive debt to pay out PUP and lots of other supports for business.
Happydays2020 wrote: » New cases come down to infections in the community and infections in hospitals. Travel is a tiny portion.
jcon1913 wrote: » The UK variant which accounts for 95% of cases here did not arrive by itself. That’s a fact.
Padre_Pio wrote: » How do you close the border with NI? How do you police 300 crossings. How do you deal with people who need to cross the border for various reasons?
Eggs For Dinner wrote: » And once it got here we were happy to pass it around at lightning speed to our friends, families and neighbours because we're too selfish by not sticking to the rules and blame Johnny Foreigner
DessieJames wrote: » Evidently it was broght in to the country, no one is disputing this, but theres no evidence to suggest it came via Dublin airport, it could have been a truck driver through the ports, or come via N.Ireland, this scaremongering and mass hysteria about travel is downright and utter nonsense of the highest order, and is a smokescreen from the government to deflect their complete and utter failure to control this. ill agree with you on one point, the lock down should be stopped imemdiately, people are sufefring mpore now than at any other point.
Manach wrote: » While it is only a relatively small percentage, the housebound are still one of the most vulernable groups. In spite of numerous assurances from the HSE and other bodies that they would not be left behind and plans are in being put in place, there has been no actions over the past several weeks with HSE stating it is a GP issue and vice versa. That no governmental stakeholder is providing clarity or communications makes it appear that they are more interested in the perception of action rather that the performance.
is_that_so wrote: » Reid mentioned these and said that would be taken care of, one would assume by by public vaccination teams. Such individuals would likely split off into different vaccination groups anyway. We're still only doing the over 80s.
Manach wrote: » Mr. Reid and others have stated this, repeatedly. But no plans are in place, nor communicated to the GPs, local public health stakeholders or to the carers for those over 85 group.
is_that_so wrote: » They will be told when they need to be told. McCraith has more than once stated how fluid the supply issue is. The logical thing to me is that they get those who can do so to GPs and MVCs first, then address any in this group who are in the over 70s. Remember there are a lot of moving parts - they are also doing other categories and first or second doses for HCWs and NHs.
Manach wrote: » "They will be told when they need to be told." is utterly patronising hogwash and betrays an elitist attitude of the administration knows best. It does not. This lack of communication, of focus on the needs of the most vulnerable and the inability to lay out any actions that will trigger the vaccination for the housebound is rank incompetence.
is_that_so wrote: » It's really not. There is no point communicating a plan for vaccination when it is unclear when exactly it can happen at this moment in time, it doesn't mean there isn't one. We do have a general indicator of when the over 85s, 80s and 70s will be done. The hubris of GPs and others assuming they should know all of this is more of an issue in terms of managing expectations and anxieties.
Manach wrote: » It really is. The core concept of modern patient care is informed choice. That no parameters have been set in place and so be communicated to this vulnerably group means than no rational care choices can be made. The mythical HSE plan has not been communicated to any internal stakeholder, at least those that I have spoken with, and the data seems to be more driven by quantity than quality of service. This is driving the housebound and their family's anxiety, that the stock phrase used over the past several weeks by Mr. Reid "No one left behind" is so much rhetorical hot-air.
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