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COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

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No anti-vax stuff in this thread - it's to discuss the various vaccines available and how they are getting rolled out, as well as testing procedures

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foozzybear61

Got my second Pfizer shot today , was called with 30 mins notice .feeling a bit wonky after it but a few hours in bed an paracetomol should clear that up I expect, so happy I could lick a lampost

Water John

wandererz wrote: »

86 year old recent former cancer & stroke patient just got an appointment date of Easter Friday!!! ��

Over 85's are first in line, but... 6 weeks!!

Doesn't bode well for everyone else anytime soon!

Please explain how any place is giving booking dates, six weeks out? Over 85s are to get their first dose in the next 2/3 weeks.

embraer170

wandererz wrote: »

86 year old recent former cancer & stroke patient just got an appointment date of Easter Friday!!! ��

Over 85's are first in line, but... 6 weeks!!

Doesn't bode well for everyone else anytime soon!

I hate to push a thread I started but could you enter the info here (with a county?). It would be good to try to gain a countrywide picture of what is actually happening in the field.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058161140

embraer170

Water John wrote: »

Please explain how any place is giving booking dates, six weeks out? Over 85s are to get their first dose in the next 2/3 weeks.

There were several reports of similar earlier in this thread. Assuming it is true, it is mistakes, statistical outliers, or something else?

wandererz

Water John wrote: »

Please explain how any place is giving booking dates, six weeks out? Over 85s are to get their first dose in the next 2/3 weeks.

I can't explain. Just got text from him saying 1pm on Good Friday at his GP (actually 5 weeks from tomorrow).

So definitely not 2-3 weeks.

Cork2021

Oh well looks like the vaccines don’t work.........

https://twitter.com/coronavirusgoo1/status/1362521413551292417?s=21

Water John

wandererz wrote: »

I can't explain. Just got text from him saying 1pm on Good Friday at his GP (actually 5 weeks from tomorrow).

So definitely not 2-3 weeks.

That would be the time of the second dose. Would the person who contacted him, have misread the diary in front of them?
That time looks like when they'd be giving the first dose to somebody under 80.

Stheno

wandererz wrote: »

I can't explain. Just got text from him saying 1pm on Good Friday at his GP (actually 5 weeks from tomorrow).

So definitely not 2-3 weeks.

Did they check whether they got one or two texts? One for 1st and one for 1nd jab?

Pete_Cavan

Stheno wrote: »

New Pfizer data

https://twitter.com/Coronavirusgoo1/status/1362343935025295361?s=19

Is it possible that one dose of Pfizer could be deemed enough, maybe for certain people (under say 40, generally good health, no known underlying conditions, etc)? If there is the potential for another booster to be needed later anyway, is there much to be gained from giving these people two shots of the current one given the results coming out from one shot?

Stark

Apparently a second shot is needed for long lasting antibodies. But supposedly you get good protection for at least 3 months after the first shot. I'd definitely be in favour of us delaying the second shot until supplies are plentiful and get as many people as possible vaccinated with their first shot during the ramp up period.

Manach

The GP contacted us in regard vaccine for an over 85 year old family member. As this person is house bound and unable to travel, the GP stated in that circumstance, they were unable to administer the vaccine and suggested waiting for another type of vaccine.

I had thought however, based on news reports, that the HSE said that there were plans in place for this contingency. Does anyone known anything concrete about these?

wandererz

Stheno wrote: »

Did they check whether they got one or two texts? One for 1st and one for 2nd jab?

I think this may indeed be the case. Will confirm tomorrow.

Water John

Sorry Manach, not able to enlighten you but on a positive details of more robust findings of the Oxford/AZ for older patients is due out and may become an option.

astrofool

Manach wrote: »

The GP contacted us in regard vaccine for an over 85 year old family member. As this person is house bound and unable to travel, the GP stated in that circumstance, they were unable to administer the vaccine and suggested waiting for another type of vaccine.

I had thought however, based on news reports, that the HSE said that there were plans in place for this contingency. Does anyone known anything concrete about these?

I think there will be alternate arrangements in those cases, but may not be administered by GP, while it's awful to have to wait, it should become clear in the next few weeks, again, as supply is limited, they will just burn through the easy case over 85's initially, and then figure out the remaining (likely as they also start moving onto the 80-84 group).

Away With The Fairies

Is there such a thing as a cancellation list with the vaccinations? If somebody doesn't show, it seems like an awful waste of a vaccine if they don't use it up.

Apparently there was spare vaccines left over with vaccinating hospital staff. As vaccinations get ramped up, I'm kind of guessing that there will be some left over. Is there any plan to use up these spares?

brickster69

Stark wrote: »

Apparently a second shot is needed for long lasting antibodies. But supposedly you get good protection for at least 3 months after the first shot. I'd definitely be in favour of us delaying the second shot until supplies are plentiful and get as many people as possible vaccinated with their first shot during the ramp up period.

You mean like what the Uk have been saying for the last couple of months ? You want to go that route now ?

josip

Water John wrote: »

Please explain how any place is giving booking dates, six weeks out? Over 85s are to get their first dose in the next 2/3 weeks.

Last week, my 83 year old mother's GP gave her an appointment date of April 6th.
Posted on here at the time.
Checked with GP as suggested, no mistake, 1st dose, but will reschedule earlier if they have surplus from the 85+ subgroup.

lbj666

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Is there such a thing as a cancellation list with the vaccinations? If somebody doesn't show, it seems like an awful waste of a vaccine if they don't use it up.

Apparently there was spare vaccines left over with vaccinating hospital staff. As vaccinations get ramped up, I'm kind of guessing that there will be some left over. Is there any plan to use up these spares?

Lot of fuss over misuse of spares in the Combe if you recall, even before that news broke the policy was already in place to keep a short notice reserve list of 100 names (of priority )

Very likely something similar will be in place for the GPs, kind of easier just ring anyone who's due in the following week invite them in earlier.

Stark

brickster69 wrote: »

You mean like what the Uk have been saying for the last couple of months ? You want to go that route now ?

Yes

wheresthebeef

Got second dose today of BioNTech-Pfizer Comirnaty alongside 175 others (nursing home residents, staff and healthcare workers).

We got 7 doses out of almost every vial today, compared to getting 7 out of a third of vials last time. Vaccinators have gained a lot of experience and with the right needles it’s definitely doable. Hopefully the GP’s are getting the right equipment and training too to obtain the bonus dose.

Pete_Cavan

brickster69 wrote: »

You mean like what the Uk have been saying for the last couple of months ? You want to go that route now ?

No, I was suggesting adjusting policy based on evidence and data now available and only doing so for very low risk groups. That would be very different to the UK policy of making up their own strategy to allow them get jab numbers as high as possible for political reasons without supporting data and just hoping it all works out.

stephenjmcd

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Is there such a thing as a cancellation list with the vaccinations? If somebody doesn't show, it seems like an awful waste of a vaccine if they don't use it up.

Apparently there was spare vaccines left over with vaccinating hospital staff. As vaccinations get ramped up, I'm kind of guessing that there will be some left over. Is there any plan to use up these spares?

Already in place
https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1362482208875950080?s=19

salmocab

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Already in place
https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1362482208875950080?s=19

I had only said to my mum the other day that when she brings my 80 yo dad for his to say to them she can be there in 20 minutes at the end of the day if they have spare. She’s 75 so one group behind him.

Gael23

Giving it to the slightly younger husband or wife of an 85 year old seems reasonable to me.

Is it 3 or 4 weeks between the two Pfizer doses?

stephenjmcd

Gael23 wrote: »

Giving it to the slightly younger husband or wife of an 85 year old seems reasonable to me.

Is it 3 or 4 weeks between the two Pfizer doses?

4, my grandmother got it yesterday and was given her appointment for 2nd dose same day 4 weeks later

Ashbourne hoop

Had the first dose of the Astra Zenica vaccine yesterday. Rough night, didn't sleep great and feel awful this morning. Like a really bad hangover. Glad to get it done though.

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Ashbourne hoop wrote: »

Had the first dose of the Astra Zenica vaccine yesterday. Rough night, didn't sleep great and feel awful this morning. Like a really bad hangover. Glad to get it done though.

I had mine last Friday...I had the same experience so last weekend was basically a write-off

Fever and chills, pain in arm at the injection site, terrible headache and fatigue, etc. - but I'm now back to normal :pac:

2nd dose due in May

Ashbourne hoop

SmallTeapot wrote: »

I had mine last Friday...I had the same experience so last weekend was basically a write-off
Fever and chills, pain in arm at the injection site, terrible headache and fatigue, etc. - but I'm now back to normal :pac:

2nd dose due in May

A few people in work are describing similar symptoms, and then there's others not a bother on them......

funnydoggy

Little steps adding up. We'll be arm in arm again soon.

Mr.Wemmick

Ashbourne hoop wrote: »

Had the first dose of the Astra Zenica vaccine yesterday. Rough night, didn't sleep great and feel awful this morning. Like a really bad hangover. Glad to get it done though.

Hope it improves soon and you feel better. Had the first jab of Pfizer 24 hours ago, nothing since other than a killer sore arm. Agree, 'tis a relief to have had it done.