Tchaikovsky wrote: » With the rage ramped up even further for a manic Trump now, anyone else worried about what other atrocious things he'll do in the next 2 weeks?
Deleted User wrote: » Does he feck want it. He only wants the job so Biden can’t. What is it Biden said the other day? “I don’t know why he wants the job, he doesn’t wanna do the work!”
Cody montana wrote: » Didn’t trump mess around for the first 2 years and lose the house? Biden needs to ram everything through. Reverse all of trumps bad policies ASAP.
Quin_Dub wrote: » I'm genuinely worried about later today in D.C. It's a foregone conclusion that there will be violence , it's just a matter of the scale that is to be seen.
Quin_Dub wrote: » I'm genuinely worried about later today in D.C. It's a foregone conclusion that there will be violence , it's just a matter of the scale that is to be seen. There's very little that Trump can do legislatively in the next few weeks - Anything he does do can be instantly repealed by Biden on the 20th. But as other have said , he is going to go on a Pardoning spree - Definitely think he is going to try to pardon himself along with quite literally anyone else that asks.
Hurrache wrote: » It's heading that way, with encouragement from reps like Mo Brooks. It's still amazing to see this stuff happen in America.
Tchaikovsky wrote: » The 2 kids gave brief speeches at Trump's last ever rally speech in Georgia on Monday.
Timberrrrrrrr wrote: » I'm more worried about what shenanigans he will get up to today! He is due to give a speech in Washington at this so called protest (6 pm our time?) And depending on what he says it could spell a very (even moreso) tumultuous time for America. Hopefully there is no violence today but with the crowd that seem to be going (proud boys, militia types etc) it's hard to say what may happen.
Brief_Lives wrote: » Eric Trump, the president's second son, has threatened to unseat Republicans that do not attempt to block the certification of Joe Biden as the 2020 presidential winner later today in the US Congress.
Leroy42 wrote: » Yeah, but to be fair that was Eric. I mean, come on. Eric? When Eric is out with the message then you know they ran out of basically everyone else. And, is it just me or have the court cases stopped at this stage. Where has Rudy and the rest of the Elite squad (or whatever they called themselves)?
Foxtrol wrote: » There was already a good bit of violence last night despite the police treating them incredibly softly, the opposite of the escalation tactics used against BLM - no unlawful assembly calls, no riot gear, no kettling, no batton charges, no rubber bullets etc.
breezy1985 wrote: » Let's just say he is telling the truth what we are gonna end up with is Trump supporters becoming another Tea party and running parallel to established Reps. in 2 years at primaries
aloyisious wrote: » I expect Trump to play the crowd today and when he's happy the pot is boiling OVER, he'll slip away for a joyride by helicopter watching the fires from a safe distance. As some-one else said recently, if Rome had invented golf, Nero would have been away on a course while Rome burned.I can imagine the smiles on a lot of faces if he "pardon's" himself leaving some-one to seek a U.S.S.C ruling on the constitutionality of the pardon. The Judges might say "there's nothing in the constitution to he or he can't issue a pardon to himself" and advise Congress that they have the power to alter that situation by a constitutional referendum.
LuckyLloyd wrote: » The reason this matters is because Biden can do the basics: he can get his nominations and his judges through. He can keep the government up and running. He can push forward the non controversial aspects of his legislative agenda (like shoring up existing provisions of the ACA, providing infrastructure / stimulus packages / etc). There will be no radical sweeping changes, but Biden cannot be baldly obstructed in the way McConnell would prefer.
Christy42 wrote: » More nuclear than flat out attempting to ignore election results? These things seem to be in a different scale entirely so tit for tat doesn't seem to apply. At a certain point someone has to govern or the US is screwed which is the exact opposite of what McConnell tries to do.
Quin_Dub wrote: » That's going to be the challenge for the GOP. What kind of standard will these Primary challengers be? If they are full-blown Q-Anon MAGA loons , they might have enough in a primary to win , but unless they are in a blood red State or district they might end up losing the seat for the GOP. But the GOP kinda have to keep these people inside the tent. If they lose them and they run as independents and syphon off a chunk of votes the GOP could lose seats all over the place. In FPTP, all these fringe guys would need to do in swing States/Districts is draw away 5-10% of the GOP vote to sink them.
Manic Moran wrote: » Nuclear weapons tend to be destructive to everyone in the area. Denying the election results has proven not only to be ineffective at achieving their intended result, but beyond that, have proven self-destructive. They are, indeed, entirely on a different scale. The people who have denied the election results are being sent into effective irrelevance, either voted out of power, or out of office entirely. They may refuse to accept it, but they can't deny the consequences. The people in favour of the nuclear option will certainly achieve their short-term goals. But like a nuclear winter, the long-term effects may prove far more destructive than the initial 'victorious' exhange. MAD is a thing both politically and militarily. We have evidence from the Senate as to what happens when one party goes nuclear and then the other follows. Why would we expect anything other from other such nuclear changes?
aloyisious wrote: » It seems the Department of Justice has submitted a proposal to the White House to change the way they enforce Title VI of the Civil Rights Act according to an article on the LGBTQ Nation facebook page.... The section PRESENTLY prohibits recipients of federal funding from discriminating based on race, color, or national origin. It covers housing programs, employers, schools, hospitals, and other organizations and programs. The move could also have an impact on LGBTQ rights. The proposed change was quietly submitted by the department last month and bypassed the normal federal rule-making process that requires the government to publish the change and allow for public comment. It was one of former Attorney General Bill Barr’s last acts. The change would specifically eliminate “disparate impact” protections for minorities. This is one of the most important tools in civil rights cases, because it doesn’t require plaintiffs to prove intent to discriminate. Instead, it covers instances where policies have a different impact on minority groups. For example, one of the most famous of these types of cases involved literacy tests for voting that was meant to prevent Black people from voting. Because they had frequently been forced out of schools, this put Black people at a disadvantage. The law didn’t specifically single out Black Americans, but its effects took away their right to vote more than others.
Quin_Dub wrote: » Actually , if someone actually challenges it I would expect it to be overturned - The Precedent would be way too risky , even for this current SCOTUS. However , if he does pardon himself , I'm not sure that any Federal case will actually even start to initiate the challenge - Comey came out yesterday saying that Trump shouldn't be federally prosecuted. NY are not going to stop coming for him though.
Leroy42 wrote: » Where are those voters going to go? AOC, Biden, Harris. Not a chance. They have no option but to stick with the GOP as the only chance of getting anything they want done. Trump help up the possibility of turning everything back in their favour, he failed. And now he is threatening to drag the whole GOP with him. Do you really think these people are going to vote independent? Trump had the Senate with him since 2016, and still failed. Imagine if he had the entire senate against him (assuming he won in 2024). With nobody to stick up for him. Total wasted vote. That will become increasingly apparent as Trump is out of power and is left shouting at clouds. US politics is brutal. They don't put up with losers for long. Trump is a loser.
Foxtrol wrote: » Sure it is bad but even if it is put through isn't this the exact type of thing Biden can reverse in his first hour in office? At this stage the only things that need to be concerned about are those that can't be rectified with a Biden signature, or thanks to last night others changed by a simple majority in the House and Senate.
aloyisious wrote: » The GOP member and Georgia election official, Gabriel Sterling, is playing a stormer live on CNN supporting the count workers and slamming Trump for causing the loss of the senate seats to the GOP. The final result will be some time yet as overseas [military and other] votes have to be counted yet.
