Thierry12 wrote: » Pretty crazy stats anyway from a highly contagious disease 20,000 trialists vaccinated 10,000 placebos given Less than 100 infections total in a few months 10 badly sick 0 deaths If you you didn't know anything about Covid, and read this study in 2010 ,you'd ask why are they doing it They picked countries where the disease was prevalent too.
Cork2021 wrote: » Now I know it’s the Daily Express but are we looking at 99% efficacy from the Oxford Vaccine might know more tomorrow all going well...https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/djYlFKbkFhJHmYUQiL1Dzg/https/media.fyre.co/LVrbmhlQTFOmnCU4X5ie_express.jpg
timsey tiger wrote: » I guess pretty strong self selection involved in signing up for a vaccine program. It is not that difficult for most people to significantly reduce their chances of catching it if so minded.
Cork2021 wrote: » Now I know it’s the Daily Express but are we looking at 99% efficacy from the Oxford Vaccine might know more tomorrow all going well...https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/djYlFKbkFhJHmYUQiL1Dzg/https/media.fyre.co/LVrbmhlQTFOmnCU4X5ie_express.jpg Edit: 99% produced antibodies. Also says phase 2 trials but we’ve got those results haven’t we?
Stark wrote: » Yup, had the phase 2 results ages ago.
AssetBacked2 wrote: » You've made a few big leaps there. If we assume, as you have, that it was 0.3% hospitalisations and we've had 5000 this year, then would it not mean only another 9700 left? With level 3 causing cases to decrease, these 9700 would be spread out so a vaccine is a "nice to have" tool but, as you say "Anyone who thinks just vaccinating the at risk brings an end to this has not been following this or choose to ignore vital elements suit them".
lbj666 wrote: » 5000 i mentioned was across all ages. But 3% to 0.3% is a huge leap aswell, sounds very optimisitic to expect a 10 fold drop in severity too along with infections, but with news going in the right direction thats becoming a closer to realistic by the day i suppose. Off course there are other mitigations i don't even mention, at risk groups will still be told to be careful, nursing homes will still have limited visitors. Treatments are improving month by month. Just cause we get nearly all the at risk up on high ground is still not reason to let the floodgates open up.
Cork2021 wrote: » Looking at twitter it looks like the daily express broke an embargo on the news as well.
Thierry12 wrote: » Anyone know what's going on in South Australia? 6 day lockdown to stop a new mutated coronavirus with 24hr incubation period That can't be right?https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/covid-19-coronavirus-why-south-australia-locked-down-new-terrifying-virus-strain-revealed/V3A2VEMAGE2ZB3D654CQATEY7Y/?fbclid=IwAR0yZr8beBqxJjSsoA7rGmH5JDswXvqqlBQGBIuRuC_6Le4im-NaXn7rutk
Deleted User wrote: » NPHET don't want even one person slipping in so 9999 people must not book a flight to travel home and see their families this Christmas.
CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: » One person passes it onto a dozen on the plane. All 13 think I'm safe I had a test. I'm negative. They then stay with close family and visit distant family and friends. Suddenly you have 13 big clusters spreading around the country. Also like the PCR test the antigen test doesn't show incubating cases.
Deleted User wrote: » Your contribution is not scientifically proven. In fact it appears that the opposite is the case. There is no evidence to suggest that the virus spreads easily within a plane where the air is continuously FILTERED and air generally travels from overhead downward to the filtering air recirculation system.
Inflight transmission of Covid-19 may have resulted in the infection of 59 people across the State, including 13 passengers on the same long-distance flight, according to a new study. The outbreak occurred despite low levels of occupancy on the long-haul flight, the fact that different groups of passengers who tested positive were not sitting near each other and the fact that most were wearing masks, the study notes.
Loafing Oaf wrote: » Ciaran seems to be basing his hyphothetical on this real-world case:https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/transmission-of-covid-19-on-flight-into-ireland-linked-to-59-infections-1.4390728
tobefrank321 wrote: » More good news with positive implications for vaccines.https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/immunity-to-coronavirus-could-last-for-months-if-not-years-scientists-find-39764633.html Unsurprisingly RTE haven't covered it. Not sensationalist enough.
dominatinMC wrote: » Instead RTE are focusing on the mink farm cull. Headline news on Claire Byrne now, nice and dramatic, fits the bill nicely.
lbj666 wrote: » [HTML][/HTML] So Daily Express' news on Astra Zeneca is not actually news?
mean gene wrote: » someone should put up a thread on rtes dooms day bullsh1t be interesting they have been a complete disgrace since this thing started how many pensioners rely on them for news
Thierry12 wrote: » They picked countries where the disease was prevalent too.
froog wrote: » That's the whole point. Why would you trial a vaccine somewhere with little or no covid?
Nevertheless, some reasonable interpretations can be made. Antibodies are the only component of immune memory that can provide truly sterilizing immunity. Immunization studies in non-human primates have indicated that circulating neutralization titers of ~200 may provide sterilizing immunity against a relatively high dose URT challenge (62), and neutralizing titers of ~3,400 may provide sterilizing immunity against a very high dose URT challenge (63), although direct comparisons are not possible because the neutralizing antibody assays have not been standardized (3)
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