Deleted User wrote: » Pfizer/BioNTech is one of the Gates funded vaccines. He's already said vaccines provide a 20-1 financial return. He's also publicly said this 'pandemic' won't end until the entire world is vaccinated. Now it's two doses. Next it might be annual. Do the math. Astronomical profits.
3xh wrote: » Has anyone else noted the distinct lack of airtime Gates has been getting in the past 2 months? Compared to when it all started and over the summer. You’d think with the announcement of this first western vaccine, he’d be all over it, talking about the funding his Foundation puts into vaccine research, GAVI, this BioNTech company connection (which I didn’t know about myself) It’s almost like he’s been told to STFU.
Deleted User wrote: » He had to disable all replies and comments across all social media platforms as well due to the overwhelming negative response. He's a primary funder of the UN and WHO. The approved vaccine was always going to be one of his. They're now saying other candidates are in later phase testing and will support the Pfizer/BioNTech roll-out. They'll be the likes of AstraZeneca and Moderna, which he has funded as well. So predictable
Deleted User wrote: » Again, take the word of the people who are actually funding it: - 20-1 financial return on each vaccine - Aiming for entire population to be vaccinated. - Multiple doses. Do the math. This isn't difficult to understand.
Sky King wrote: » Yeah it really interesting when you start teasing out the numbers like that - try to get a sense of the scale of what is involved. The scale of the challenge soon becomes apparent. I am no logistics expert but I think rather than trying to put together a crazy ass national logistical distribution system which could quite easily be ballsed up, they would be better off having one or two national drive through centres in a location that is capable of handling a lot of traffic - somewhere like a stadium, a racecourse or airport carpark, or the disused ferry terminal in Dun Laoghaire or similar. It's a LOT easier to bring a person to a vaccine than to go and create a novel, specialised cold chain to bring a vaccine to the person. You could augment this with mobile services for care homes if needs be.
Russman wrote: » Thanks for the info, I didn’t realise this. Nice to have a date though. Wasn’t there an EU document saying all EU countries will get it at the same time ?
hmmm wrote: » Yes. I don't have it to hand, but it has come up on this thread before. Equal share depending on population. Here's a Reuters article just out:https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-vaccine-idUSKBN27Q2JL "“Under the common framework agreement, Italy will receive some 13.6% of the first 200 million doses, with 3.4 million doses expected as early as in January, provided the European Medicine Authority approves the vaccine in December,” the source said."
hmmm wrote: » Yes. I don't have it to hand, but it has come up on this thread before. Equal share depending on population. Here's a Reuters article just out:https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-vaccine-idUSKBN27Q2JL "“Under the common framework agreement, Italy will receive some 13.6% of the first 200 million doses, with 3.4 million doses expected as early as in January, provided the European Medicine Authority approves the vaccine in December,” the source said." Some quick maths - 3.4 million is 12.5% of their allocation. For Ireland total allocation c. 2m, 12.5% = 250,000 doses.
brisan wrote: » Using those figures we will get about 1/12th of Italy's supply so about 280k in Jan ,enough for 140k people
hmmm wrote: » Hmmzis or someone else might know more about the dynamics of booster shots, but given there's about 4 weeks between injections I wonder whether we would go ahead and simply give 250k people their first injection anyway to give them some immunity.
thecretinhop wrote: » https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/health-news/ireland-set-receive-two-million-22984972 Great success!
JDD wrote: » There you go. Bang on enough doses to vaccinate the elderly, the health care workers and at risk groups. Honestly, once they're done we can probably go down to a level 1. I realise there are some immuno compromised people who can't take the vaccine, so they would still need to be very careful. But our hospitals won't get overwhelmed if the above population are vaccinated, so no more lockdowns! The government will be looking to ensure that enough younger healthy people get the vaccine in Q3 in order to ensure herd immunity - and I bet my house that will mean that we will remain on Level 1 until a "sufficient" number of people have gotten the vaccine. Still, I think there'll be a good enough uptake by the 20-50 year olds that we will be able to go back to old times by mid Summer. The end is in sight lads!!
Sky King wrote: » @JDD No mention of timeframe though. That could take a year...
CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: » I guess it would depend. Are we getting 280k on January first and none til February? Or are we getting 280k on January 1st and some more later.
Russman wrote: » Jeez, the more I think about those numbers, the bigger the task gets. Imagine if Moderna, J&J and Oxford all came through within the next couple of months. We could be theoretically looking at vaccinating 400k/500k per month in the springtime. That's an absolutely massive task, especially when you consider any two shot regimens.
Cork2021 wrote: » Looks like good news coming from AstraZeneca..https://twitter.com/askomartin/status/1326177880586526721?s=21 Youll need to use translate
Thierry12 wrote: » Nice Competition at last Pfizer is supposedly €40 per dose, while AstraZeneca are selling to the EU for €2.50 per dose We will be going for Pfizer :pac:
seamie78 wrote: » Is this news from oxford from an official source
Gael23 wrote: » Apparently the Pfizer vaccine will not be suitable for people with compromised immune systems as it requires T cells to be working correctly.
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