manniot2 wrote: » trump will lose the head - 3 days after the election result haha
[Deleted User] wrote: » RTÉ's modus operandi is to dissuade any good news reaching the masses so they'll happily stay under the thumb of Tony Holohan. NPHET are bound to be disgusted by today's very positive development as people will be empowered by hope.
Thierry12 wrote: » Think they will incentive it later on Gift cards etc
hmmm wrote: » Two good points made on CNBC by Gottlieb & others: 1. The public may be willing to endure more stringent lockdowns if they know there is light at the end of the table. Governments will be willing to spend heavily during this period. 2. This will prove the mRNA vaccine platform which currently has multiple trials against other diseases (and even cancer) using this technology.
titan18 wrote: » I don't think so. If we get down to level 1/2 restrictions, we'll be ok. I can't see there be events with hundreds or thousands indoors until a majority of the population are vaccinated myself. My hope is by April, we're looking at decent amounts being able to eat and drink indoors but with capacity limits, travel to restart normally albeit masks still being required, everything open with probably exception of stuff that rely on having hundreds or thousands in attendance (nightclubs won't be open fully, stadiums won't be full, conferences won't be happening etc). But a good 80-90% of our life is back
hmmm wrote: » Two good points made on CNBC by Gottlieb & others: 1. The public may be willing to endure more stringent lockdowns if they know there is light at the end of the tunnel. Governments will be willing to spend heavily during this period. 2. This will prove the mRNA vaccine platform which currently has multiple trials against other diseases (and even cancer) using this technology.
Goldengirl wrote: » Don't think it'll be "carrot "as we may need frequent boosters , don't know how long immunity will last or if frequent mutations. More likely " stick " that can't travel etc to countries that are pro vaccine without it . Still if enough get it we will be ok , and the oul anti vaxxer Covid deniers can be ignored , as they should be anyhow
holdyerhorses wrote: » Point 1 is now clear, Xmas shopping, pub-ing, household visiting is a goner.
Thierry12 wrote: » Makes sense Vulnerable especially you'd imagine will take extreme care knowing not long till vaccine is here Now's the interesting partWonder will see vaccinated only indoor events, wrist bands to show your vaccinated etc at airports and so on With 90% efficacy vaccinated might not need to wear masks? 90% is practically a cure
average_runner wrote: » Not sure what u are arguing about. Its positive news
ShineOn7 wrote: » American markets haven't opened yet have they? Pfizer share holders today ...
holdyerhorses wrote: » Vaccines causing autism? Never proven. Proven other side-effects though, in the longer term. Of course impossible to tell in extremely, very short time windows like this trial. Which is always a worry.
3xh wrote: » I know it’s all funny etc but joke aside, do you really think Pfizer could not have announced this any sooner? I’m of the view, simply, they could have. So why wouldn’t they? Rhetorical question. You should be worried about that.
polesheep wrote: » Merkel has said that it won't be mandatory. The EU will not go down the route you outlined above.
CoronaBlocker wrote: » <waves>
Cordell wrote: » Vaccines causing autism it's a proven fraudulent study. I'm not aware of any side effect that takes years to show, on any vaccine out there. Are you?
titan18 wrote: » I could see health passports happening for travel, maybe not intra EU but could see some countries requiring it much like you'd get vaccines if travelling to some countries atm.
holdyerhorses wrote: » You can kiss goodbye to Xmas at this stage, though. Which, as far as i can tell, was the NPHET, Govt. strategy all along.
Thierry12 wrote: » Its gonna start getting normal again :-)
440Hertz wrote: » I’d assume the most likely scenario is that you’ll have a vaccine certificate of some sort, and if you are vaccinated you’ll be able to travel, maybe go to gigs, actively take part in contact sport, go for the gym etc etc Realistically, if we don’t take this seriously there’s a risk of a failure to reach herd immunity & a mutating virus that will render the whole programme pointless & then we would be into a grim situation of a coronavirus driven Dark Ages. I suspect this is going to also end up with the most anti science countries & states and those who are further down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole doing a lot worse than those that are into facts and capable of weighing risks. My take on it is that the risk of catching this virus or passing it onto vulnerable people like any of my family members and are either older or at risk far, far, far outweighs any theoretical risks of taking a well tested vaccine. If you think about it: eating a medium rare steak carries risk. Cutting your toenails in the bath carries risk. When you make a cup of tea there’s a slight risk of scalding. When you buy a sandwich, you might face a tiny risk of food poisoning, but we do all of those things because those risks are absolutely tiny. The risks of the vaccine would seem absolutely tiny whereas the risks of the coronavirus are significant either for you or someone else and causing massive disruption. So I will be taking it! We need to get people back to a situation where they can weigh risks in a sane way though, or we really are headed for a mess.
s1ippy wrote: » Tbh RTÉ didn't ask any pertinent questions of the UCC researcher they had on and just let the news be given as it is. There was no analysis or discussion about it, all very positive.
iguana wrote: » Slight issue with this in my house. My son turns 8 tomorrow and now doesn't know what to wish for when he blows out his candles as he had been planning to wish for a vaccine.
