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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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briany

vafankillar wrote: »

it's not meant to be a great point, the supposed great point and almost main strategy was biden's blaming of the corona virus deaths purely on trump as if barely any would have happened otherwise. The votes have shown simply "saying i'm not trump" was a **** tactic. He may get over the line, but their fairytale of a landslide was just that

The idea that Trump has so far increased his voter total from 2016 by some 3 million votes should certainly give his opponents pause for thought and confirm that Trumpism is no blip.

However, if Biden does indeed win this thing by a mere handful of electoral votes, he would be every bit as much a legitimate president as if he'd won by a hundred votes of more. I think it's safe to assume that if Trump only won it narrowly, the only recognition he'd give of that would be to say it was because of electoral fraud and he'd really won by more.

StringerBell

Headshot wrote: »

From the Guardian

Trump campaign files lawsuit to 'halt counting' in Michigan
Donald Trump’s reelection campaign said it had filed a lawsuit to halt the counting of ballots in the swing state of Michigan.

“President Trump’s campaign has not been provided with meaningful access to numerous counting locations to observe the opening of ballots and the counting process, as guaranteed by Michigan law. We have filed suit today in the Michigan Court of Claims to halt counting until meaningful access has been granted,” campaign manager Bill Stepien said in a statement.

“We also demand to review those ballots which were opened and counted while we did not have meaningful access. President Trump is committed to ensuring that all legal votes are counted in Michigan and everywhere else.”

Joe Biden has narrowly pulled ahead in Michigan, giving him the advantage in the key swing state, but many ballots still need to be counted.

Tooth and nail sure, the rest of his life depends on it. He will pull every stroke available now to try steal it, wouldn't be surprised at all to see a lot come out in the months that follow this election about how he and probably De Santis ****ed with the postal vote in Florida given what we have already seen and it surely won't be just Florida.

The Iron Giant

~Rebel~ wrote: »

It pops up if you just google “ us presidential election 2020”

Thank you kindly!

vafankillar

Shelga wrote: »

Ok, why does that bring you such joy?

because I dislike politicians who draft laws putting hundreds of thousands of people in prison for low level crime and bomb countries in the middle east, along with people who support and enable them.

[Deleted User]

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Well the gesture was my point. It was a genuinely nice moment and seemed genuine whether the action was meaningless.,I know he did but I think that might have been a seasoned veteran senator pulling a kruskev on Kennedy in the 1960s. McConnell will know he can’t ****ehawk Biden like he did Obama should he become president.

What makes you say that? Biden has been going on about healing and inclusion more than anyone and there's been suggestions he'll have a Republican in his cabinet. Biden isn't about confrontation unfortunately and there's 2 years of nothing getting done coming up whoever wins.

Christy42

shocksy wrote: »

They're a bit late to the party. He lost that ages ago by about 20k.

Weirdly no one was calling it. Given how early Arizona was called you would think a 29k lead with 600 votes left would be considered relatively safe but they waited for whatever reason.

~Rebel~

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

Could you send a link to this? I was following this tracker last night and can't find it in my history. Thanks!

It pops up if you just google “ us presidential election 2020”

StringerBell

Collins re-election has been called. Sigh.

Headshot

From the Guardian

Trump campaign files lawsuit to 'halt counting' in Michigan
Donald Trump’s reelection campaign said it had filed a lawsuit to halt the counting of ballots in the swing state of Michigan.

“President Trump’s campaign has not been provided with meaningful access to numerous counting locations to observe the opening of ballots and the counting process, as guaranteed by Michigan law. We have filed suit today in the Michigan Court of Claims to halt counting until meaningful access has been granted,” campaign manager Bill Stepien said in a statement.

“We also demand to review those ballots which were opened and counted while we did not have meaningful access. President Trump is committed to ensuring that all legal votes are counted in Michigan and everywhere else.”

Joe Biden has narrowly pulled ahead in Michigan, giving him the advantage in the key swing state, but many ballots still need to be counted.

shocksy

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

CNN projects Wisconsin for Biden.

They're a bit late to the party. He lost that ages ago by about 20k.

Shelga

vafankillar wrote: »

it's not meant to be a great point, the supposed great point and almost main strategy was biden's blaming of the corona virus deaths purely on trump as if barely any would have happened otherwise. The votes have shown simply "saying i'm not trump" was a **** tactic. He may get over the line, but their fairytale of a landslide was just that

Ok, why does that bring you such joy?

Mr.Nice Guy

CNN projects Wisconsin for Biden.

dinorebel

nc6000 wrote: »

What was Jill Stein hoping to gain from a recount?

Chaos she's a professional troll.

vafankillar

salmocab wrote: »

So you’re arguing that anyone else in charge would have had 150k-180k deaths but Trump has 230k. I’m not sure this is the great point you think it was.

it's not meant to be a great point, the supposed great point and almost main strategy was biden's blaming of the corona virus deaths purely on trump as if barely any deaths would have happened otherwise. The votes have shown simply "saying i'm not trump" was a **** tactic. He may get over the line, but their fairytale of a landslide was just that

shocksy

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Where are you seeing that? AP still has him up by over 40,000 votes on the google results..

Yeah I'm seeing what you're seeing too. I think that poster has it wrong.

spacecoyote

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Where are you seeing that? AP still has him up by over 40,000 votes on the google results..

Sorry just refreshed it there and it updated to about a 45k lead

dogbert27

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Where are you seeing that? AP still has him up by over 40,000 votes on the google results..

I'm seeing the same as you. Biden over 45,000 ahead

bennyl10

spacecoyote wrote: »

Just checked that AP site and they have Trump ahead now in Michigan. Have been switched off for a while with work. What's going on there, thought they reckoned it was done there?

AP still has Biden ahead by 50kish?

The Iron Giant

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Where are you seeing that? AP still has him up by over 40,000 votes on the google results..

Could you send a link to this? I was following this tracker last night and can't find it in my history. Thanks!

~Rebel~

spacecoyote wrote: »

Just checked that AP site and they have Trump ahead now in Michigan. Have been switched off for a while with work. What's going on there, thought they reckoned it was done there?

Where are you seeing that? AP still has him up by over 40,000 votes on the google results..

Larbre34

The odds have ebbed and flowed the past 18 hours, it's just in game betting. Pay no heed, if your money is on Trump and you can cash out, take it.

briany

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

If Biden wins you'll not see a republican president for the next 16 years.

Care to elaborate?

0gac3yjefb5sv7

Why has Trump's odds shortened in that last hour?

salmocab

vafankillar wrote: »

the overreaction as if Trump has caused some near genocidal number of deaths with corona virus is such rubbish. Belguim and spain have more deaths per capita along with a few others. also biden doesn't even support healthcare for all during a pandemic.

There probably still would have been around 150k-180k deaths from the corona virus regardless of who was in charge, especially since some of the worst hit places where democratic cities with huge poverty rates and low-heath insurance rates

So you’re arguing that anyone else in charge would have had 150k-180k deaths but Trump has 230k. I’m not sure this is the great point you think it was.

sterz

SNIP. No betting please.

Midlife

vafankillar wrote: »

the overreaction as if Trump has caused some near genocidal number of deaths with corona virus is such rubbish. Belguim and spain have more deaths per capita along with a few others. also biden doesn't even support healthcare for all during a pandemic.

There probably still would have been around 150k-180k deaths from the corona virus regardless of who was in charge, especially since some of the worst hit places where democratic cities with huge poverty rates and low-heath insurance rates

I agree with what you say but it was the manner of his handling.

He lied, promoted sham drugs, lied again and then said God wanted him to catch it.

Maybe as you say its 70k more, but it's been such bad leadership.

spacecoyote

Just checked that AP site and they have Trump ahead now in Michigan. Have been switched off for a while with work. What's going on there, thought they reckoned it was done there?

Headshot

Still over a million votes to be countered in Pennsylvania

Rjd2

FFS.

Collins was bigger than 2/1 the other week to win this state.

If true, looks like a gift from the Gods. :mad:

https://twitter.com/JamesArkin/status/1324051536620720132

vafankillar

Shelga wrote: »

239k coronavirus deaths and counting, yeah it's an absolute hoot.

the overreaction as if Trump has caused some near genocidal number of deaths with corona virus is such rubbish. Belguim and spain have more deaths per capita along with a few others. also biden doesn't even support healthcare for all during a pandemic.

There probably still would have been around 150k-180k deaths from the corona virus regardless of who was in charge, especially since some of the worst hit places where democratic cities with huge poverty rates and low-heath insurance rates