hmmm wrote: » Good article on vaccine supplies expected in 2021, and which countries have pre-purchased which vaccines:https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3107262/production-covid-19-vaccine-could-top-16-billion-doses-delivery "Of the 12 billion projected or planned doses the Yellow House tallied in September for production by the end of next year, only a third to a half might actually materialise, they forecast after taking into account historical failure rates in vaccine development for clinical trials, as well as possible setbacks when boosting production."
Irish Stones wrote: » Kate Bingham, chair of the UK government’s Vaccine Taskforce, warns that the first generation of vaccine, if ever available, might be not perfect, and we should not rely our strategy on the vaccine alone.https://scroll.in/latest/976980/coronavirus-first-generation-of-vaccines-is-likely-to-be-imperfect-says-uk-official
chrisbonnie wrote: » It's a bit late for telling us not to rely on the vaccine as our strategy, expecially as it seems every country on the planet has adopted this strategy, bar maybe new Zealand and some parts of Asia.
holdyerhorses wrote: » But it's a pointless endeavour, the vaccine candidates put limits on the disease, not the spread of the virus.
hmmm wrote: » Again, not proven and until phase 3 results are released we won't know the extent of protection.
holdyerhorses wrote: » It was a bit naive and ignorant of governments to have that as their primary strategy from the get-go, as well.
chrisbonnie wrote: » Totally, id like to think if these vaccines don't work, and we can't mass test like they do in China, then the country would take the zero covid approach, but I can't see them doing it. Unfortunately
holdyerhorses wrote: » What's not proven? Any efficacy? Of course. But their primary goal is to reduce disease, not transmission. And if so, then an even more pointless endeavour endeavour saying things like "no vaccination = no travel"
hmmm wrote: » We'll have to just wait and see what the results of testing are. It's pretty obvious that we are going to see testing before flights at some point next year, and countries will make their own decisions as to whether they want to let unvaccinated people in. Some of the poorer tourism-dependent countries might decide it's worth the risk, but I doubt anywhere wealthy is going to welcome them and risk starting new outbreaks in their own country.
holdyerhorses wrote: » If a wealthy country has enough people vaccinated, and the vaccine is a preventer of disease, then it doesn't need to worry about outbreaks, they wont happen.
hmmm wrote: » We don't know whether the vaccine is going to prevent disease or just serious illness, you've said that yourself. Let's just agree to disagree - I think some countries will choose to ban unvaccinated people, you think they are going to throw open their doors. Instead of going around in circles with the same old arguments from previous posters, I'm going to stop here.
hmmm wrote: » Eli Lilly to supply 300,000 doses of its antibody treatment to the US for $300 million. Not cheap!https://investor.lilly.com/news-releases/news-release-details/lilly-announces-agreement-us-government-supply-300000-vials "Lilly anticipates manufacturing up to one million doses of bamlanivimab 700 mg by the end of 2020 – with 100,000 doses ready to ship within days of authorization – for use around the world. The supply of Lilly's antibody therapy is expected to increase substantially beginning in Q1 2021, as additional manufacturing resources come online throughout the year."
Thierry12 wrote: » Doesn't even work? No use to hospitalised they said Have to take it onset
Thierry12 wrote: » Have to take it onset
timsey tiger wrote: » I guess they are wasting their shareholders money so. Serves them right for investing in big pharma, wha?
jackboy wrote: » Just because it doesn’t work does not mean that they will not sell it. The US government may have already agreed to buy it. Same applies to some of the vaccines in development. The companies will not be paying for those if things do not work out.
hmmm wrote: » So much misinformation to be tackled.https://twitter.com/HelenBranswell/status/1321514907536338944
hmmm wrote: » Looks like good results from Regeneron (the cocktail Trump got). The problem is you haven't a hope of getting it as supply is very limited.
ShineOn7 wrote: » Why is supply limited? It's working very well. They should be moving mountains to increase production
hmmm wrote: » Looks like good results from Regeneron (the cocktail Trump got). The problem is you haven't a hope of getting it as supply is very limited.https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/regenerons-covid-19-outpatient-trial-prospectively-demonstrates-that-regn-cov2-antibody-cocktail-significantly-reduced-virus-levels-and-need-for-further-medical-attention-301162255.html "There was a 1.08 log greater reduction with REGN-COV2 treatment by day 5, which corresponds to REGN-COV2 patients having, on average, a greater than 10-fold reduction in viral load, compared to placebo." "Treatment with REGN-COV2 reduced COVID-19 related medical visits by 72% in patients with one or more risk factor (including being over 50 years of age; body mass index greater than 30; cardiovascular, metabolic, lung, liver or kidney disease; or immunocompromised status) (combined dose groups; nominal p = 0.0065)."
Hmmzis wrote: » They would be of incredible utility in nursing homes and any long term care facility. The moment any one resident or carer tests positive, all residents get a shot of this. The other use would be in cancer patients undergoing active treatment. With enough doses Covid ward personell could be protected before vaccines arrive. Real shame the doses are what they are.
hmmm wrote: » Any idea how durable the antibodies you'd receive would be? i.e. if you get a shot of this how long could you be expected to produce a robust immune response. Roche are apparently responsible for manufacturing it in Europe.
Thierry12 wrote: » If you vaccinate the people that get sick The 50+ age group Does it matter if unvaccinated come into the country? They are not going to kill people as the young don't die from this. This will be an adult only vaccine for a long time imo
