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Near Misses Thread Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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Seth Brundle

tnegun wrote: »

I had a look back over the stuff I'd uploaded to streamable for incidents caused by using or occurring in cycle lanes here's a few showing the general state of cycle lanes in these country and these are probably some of our better ones! Certainly some were only a few weeks/months old in these videos.

Pinched

Plenty of room to squeeze in a lane here

Brand new lane complete with signs and traffic signals bonus pedestrian at the end

I'm turning left now

I'm going left now

Me too

Another pinch

Another brand new lane You can't really see it but just were the video starts it was decided to put a bus stop in the new lane after it was completed despite loads of room to do both at the planning stage!

Same lane another reason not to use it

Not using the same lane here encourages stupid passes so that you'll use it the next time I think is the logic

Another new lane being used as a turning bay

Bike what bike???

Two for one close call with car and truck then poor transition from brand new lane to the road.

When I first saw the one near Maynooth, I decided to never use it. The end if it is a death trap!
The one along the new road outside Intel is poor mainly because of the merge onto the road. People on bikes are given no merging room and are directed out into manholes on a slight bend. You're better off on the road IMO.

buffalo

tnegun wrote: »

Yeah there are some pretty poor ones around Maynooth, I stay out of most now and can say I've given them a chance! There was a cyclist down on the Straffen road this afternoon at one of the lanes that gives right of way across an entrance to an estate was left hooked and the bike crushed. Thankfully he was up and about but with comments that he was traveling too fast for the driver to see :rolleyes:

"Cyclist achieves faster than light speed travel"

Stark

They were ticketing people for a while there and the problem looked to have gone away for a good while.

magicbastarder

i have seen that video being used on twitter as a 'cyclists! wear helmets!' message, but thankfully the general reaction was 'you watched that video and think the main thing that would have prevented harm was a helmet?'

Enduro

Not that it's any consolation, but its not just when cycling. Any non-motorist peasants can be ignored apparently. Today I got hit -twice- by wing mirrors whilst running (Glencullen area). Not wearing a helmet, so probably my own fault. Some people just don't give a crap.

Parking was also nuts around Tibradden and Cruagh. The cops really should do a sweep the next sunny weekend day. The parking fines could go a long way to paying for the lockdown!

Seth Brundle

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Not a near miss but more of a rant. Was cycling on a road with traffic islands every few hundred metres.

Was cycling past one of them, staying on the left hand side of the road when a car decides to join up with me. Leaving very little space between myself and the car. Scary wondering are they going to hit you being so close.

If there's a risk of you being left short of space by an overtaking car then take Primary Position on the road until they can pass you safely.
https://irishcycle.com/2019/08/07/you-can-cycle-in-the-centre-of-the-road-says-revised-rules-of-the-road/

Duckjob

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Very good, thanks for this. I didn't know I can do this. But I'm guessing now that I do know, will I have drivers being dícks and giving me the horn to move? But fcuk them, I'll cycle in a safe way.

No doubt you will, but when they do, consider that if somebody blasts you with the horn while you're taking primary position in limited space you know you've successfully blocked an incompetent and dangerous driver from endangering your life for the sake of a couple of seconds (or, as is the sad reality with a lot of bad driver maneuvres, for the sake of absolutely no benefit at all)

Good and competent drivers will recognise that there was never a opportunity to make a proper safe overtake anyway so by riding where you are you're not blocking them from anything.

Seth Brundle

breezy1985 wrote: »

Was thinking yesterday when out on country roads. What is all the hedgerow on Irish roadsides for. Is it to protect farmers land and would it be a problem to clear it on narrow be ds to help viability?

Not really in my opinion.
The advice is that you drive/ride/whatever in a manner in which you can stop within your line of vision. Hedgerows will grow and can't be cut during the nesting season (when they grow quickest) so people should travel safely.
If people want to travel fast in a car then they need to be responsible about it.

Seth Brundle

breezy1985 wrote: »

I'm not disagreeing but those hedgerows were planted long before we had a clue about biodiversity so that's not why they were planted. But I'm not against it as a reason to keep them

I think they were planted as field boundaries to stop animals wandering (and possibly for defence?). They are also usually accompanied by a drain to help allow excess water to leave the soil.

Seth Brundle

breezy1985 wrote: »

Probably why you don't see them too much on the roads in the Tour de France. Not much chance of all those yellow sunflowers and wheat stalks running over into the next field

You often see that here also where tillage farmers keep hedges right down because the headlands around the sides if a field tend to have lower yields due to the shade, amongst other things.

Seth Brundle

Seanmk1 wrote: »

Some of the NCD hedgerows come with instructions ðŸ˜€

Could be dangerous trying to read that as you cycle by!

Seth Brundle

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What cyclist? sure all I could see was the sun judge.

Given a previous verdict in the courts, it's a valid excuse for killing someone :rolleyes:

magicbastarder

indicating does not give you right of way.

buffalo

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Please tell me that you're not a driver. Please tell me you don't drive like this, slapping on your indicator to claim ' right of way and cutting up other road users?

Tell me you're not a cyclist.

A pedal cyclist may overtake on the left where vehicles to the pedal cyclist’s right are stationary or are moving more slowly than the overtaking pedal cycle, except where the vehicle to be overtaken—

(i) has signalled an intention to turn to the left and there is a reasonable expectation that the vehicle in which the driver has signalled an intention to turn to the left will execute a movement to the left before the cycle overtakes the vehicle,

From the clip, the driver was indicating before the turn and before the cyclist had started to overtake, so the cyclist was not permitted to overtake on the left.

MojoMaker

Cyclist in the wrong here, or more to the point, car is not in the wrong - as hard as that is to admit. Another point - given Ranelagh is one of the tightest chokepoints on the City--> Southside rat corridors and extremely variable even on a good day, why would you choose to keep one hand occupied and not involved in controlling the bike??

No coffee is that good!! :pac:

Seth Brundle

Quick question on garda traffic watch - how long does it usually take for the station to call back after you notify traffic watch of a dangerous/inconsiderate overtake?
Phoned them on Monday morning and have heard nothing back since.

Dr_Colossus

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Quick question on garda traffic watch - how long does it usually take for the station to call back after you notify traffic watch of a dangerous/inconsiderate overtake?
Phoned them on Monday morning and have heard nothing back since.

juicer wrote: »

Took them 2/3 days to contact me when I made a report a few months ago.

Can vary hugely, first time I logged a complaint a couple of years ago I didn't get a call back for about 2 months and Garda had to remind me of the incident as I had logged another one in the interim.

hesker

breezy1985 wrote: »

I didn't notice the coffee first time but on first watch no one was at fault. A car slowly indicated and turned ahead of a bike that had plenty of time to saunter past. All I see is 2 considerate road users

Exactly. Storm in a teacup.... or a coffee cup if you prefer

Seth Brundle

I'm believe this is someone on here...
https://twitter.com/alanstrainor/status/1327225149293260801

Seth Brundle

Truckermal wrote: »

It is indeed Alan lovely lad I'm delighted he reported it.

...for what it was worth :rolleyes:

magicbastarder

https://www.gadra.ie/

cletus

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

Does Garda count though?

I used to live in the Netherlands, whenever I see the polite vests around here for a second I instinctively think Politie (the Dutch for police).

60 .— (1) A person is guilty of an offense if he or she—

( a ) impersonates a member of the Garda Síochána, or

( b ) makes any statement or does any act calculated falsely to suggest that he or she is such a member.

It doesn't specify. I'd imagine it's been left deliberately open so that the Gardai can interpret as necessary

Seth Brundle

There is a courier company in Dublin that had those Polite high-viz motorbike vests for ages. I assume if there was an issue then they wouldn't have lasted so long.
I see on their website that they're even selling them! https://www.cyclone.ie/new-products/cyclone-polite-hi-viz

magicbastarder

they're in dublin, which is crucial, as the gardai don't use the word 'police' on their vests or livery, so it'd be unreasonable to try to claim you were impersonating them.

putting 'GADRA' on a vest would be an obvious breach of the act as it's quite clear you want people to think you're a garda at first glance.

RobertFoster

John Hutton wrote: »

I wear a Dublin bus one when cycling in Dublin, busses steer well clear

The stories I've heard from past and present DB staff, it'd probably make you a target :pac:

cletus

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

I look forward to hearing all the reasons why the cyclist was wrong to nearly get taken out by the driver cutting into the bike lane with no indication to get past the vehicle turning right ahead. The cyclist gave an audible scream at the time, so I think she got a fair old shock.

https://streamable.com/trm2vi

I don't see any reason why people would say the cyclist was in the wrong

magicbastarder

i suspect the 'i look forward to hearing' was a reference to the previous video where a cyclist and a left turning motorist nearly collided, but where in the previous instance there certainly was not consensus that the motorist was to blame.

Dr_Colossus

Weepsie wrote: »

Had a scrote pass me close enough that I could touch the back of his car without having to move my arm an awful lot(or probably half the car of I stretched)

F*cker had been on my wheel and kept revving behind me and passed me with parked cars to one side and line of traffic on the other. I had the lane. He could've used the entire lane had he waited a second, but didn't want to.

He didn't like that I could touch his car as a result of his dangerous driving, so pullers over, tried to push me off the bike , got in his car and drove it at me before I think he had a realisation that was a bad idea.

No camera and it'll just take a but you touched his car Garda for it to be dismissed l

Touching his car was your means of alerting him of your presence and proof he was driving too close, what were you supposed to do let him crush you against the line of parked cars?

A couple of months back I slapped the side of a large private bus on the south quays as it drove from lane 2 into 1 where I was cycling before trying to pull in further up to a bus stop. Upon the couple of sharp slaps the driver immediately veered back into lane two and then acknowledged his error. Obvious he never looked/saw me despite broad daylight and a strong front light and the fabled life saved that is a high viz vest. In other words without touching his vehicle I would have been forced off the road and likely pinned against the bus stop.

So too only in addition to performing a dangerous overtake which should be a fine and penalty points he also assaulted you in trying to knock you off the bike and then threatened you further with his car. Needs taking off the road if we have proper enforcement.

magicbastarder

where did it happen? i.e. which station will you have to go to?

magicbastarder

or mountjoy maybe?