end of the road wrote: » the response to their truth matters campaign has actually been overwhelmingly favourable from everything i have saw. sure, the few usual types have gone on their instant rager but very few listen to them anyway.
Deleted User wrote: » Ok, look. I've seen you post quite a bit on boards, and I've noticed people generally don't agree with you. That's fine; you're entitled to your own opinion, and I've never seen you be disrespectful to anyone whilst posting. That said, below are the first two pages of replies to the advert in question (ie top ranked) from a week or so ago, after it went up on Facebook. RTE have also removed all comments and likes/dislikes from the ads on Youtube, due to the same negative reaction. Claiming "the response to the campaign has actually been overwhelmingly favourable" proves that you are either trying to lie to others, or more likely, lying to yourself. There's enough fake and agenda driven news out there already. You'll never get the truth if you're in denial to begin with.
end of the road wrote: » in fairness youtube comments sections and facebook are a magnet for people looking to be outraged and offended over anything, or to go on a windup etc. i generally wouldn't use either to judge the quality of anything. believe me i know fake news and lies when they come across my path and while absolutely rte has faults in terms of a lot of the programs they provide, mainly the ones considered as "entertainment" their news and current affairs coverage is reliable as is the bbc and a few other main stream sources.
Loafing Oaf wrote: » Yesterday's announcement gave no clear idea of how the government intends to achieve this, and gave me the impression the 'plan' is to open everything up and let the virus run rampant over Christmas, inevitably necessitating another lockdown early in the New Year.
Taoiseach Micheál Martin has predicted there may be a period where Ireland continues to go from higher to lower restriction levels and back again if coronavirus continues to spread.
polesheep wrote: » Unfortunately they are not. I think you are falling into the trap of considering them to be good sources based on the truly awful sources that are out there. One has to do quite a bit of searching and cross-referencing to arrive at what one hopes is the unvarnished truth to any story in any media. As I said earlier, it's all a mess.
end of the road wrote: » in fairness youtube comments sections and facebook are a magnet for people looking to be outraged and offended over anything, or to go on a windup etc. i generally wouldn't use either to judge the quality of anything.
end of the road wrote: » believe me i know fake news and lies when they come across my path and while absolutely rte has faults in terms of a lot of the programs they provide, mainly the ones considered as "entertainment" their news and current affairs coverage is reliable as is the bbc and a few other main stream sources.
froog wrote: » so what is the alternative to lockdowns? i'm genuinely all ears. as i'm sure politicians and NPHET would be too. there's one caveat - you can't collapse the health system. which will lead to many more deaths from lack of healthcare on top of the COVID deaths. this is simply not an option.
mikekerry wrote: » Collapsing the economy is, also not a good idea. No economy = no health system.There are plenty of alternatives to lockdowns it just requires a bit of planning and intelligence. Neither of those attributes are in supply with this goverment
[Deleted User] wrote: » RTE is funded by the Irish government (via the taxpayer, whether we like it or not). The BBC is also funded in the same way, along with donations from the likes of the UN, Gates Foundation, and European Commission. As long as you understand, the news you're receiving comes through the filter of these governments and their funders. You cannot consider that completely objective or reliable. As I said before, just don't bulls**t yourself.
Thierry12 wrote: » Mass antigen testing Close border and inbound travel to residents only Test the whole country every 2 weeks and put infected in regional hotels forcefully, guarded by army or garda outside, no asking people to quarantine crap Everyone has a PPS number, money taken out of payslips our social welfare etc if no show at drive-tru testing. China style Only way
froog wrote: » only works for a totalitarian regime and terrified/compliant population. next!
Thierry12 wrote: » Slovakia are a totalitarian?https://www.google.com/amp/s/pledgetimes.com/slovakia-will-test-the-entire-population-in-two-days/amp/ They are going to test whole population in 2 days 8000 army troops on the ground
Thierry12 wrote: » Test the whole country every 2 weeks and put infected in regional hotels forcefully, guarded by army or garda outside, no asking people to quarantine crap
Deleted User wrote: » Facebook and Youtube are two of the biggest platforms on the internet for people to voice their opinions. Even then, undesired comments are often censored. I don't know where else you're seeing these "highly favourable responses" you mentioned. RTE is funded by the Irish government (via the taxpayer, whether we like it or not). The BBC is also funded in the same way, along with donations from the likes of the UN, Gates Foundation, and European Commission. As long as you understand, the news you're receiving comes through the filter of these governments and their funders. You cannot consider that completely objective or reliable. As I said before, just don't bulls**t yourself.
mikekerry wrote: » Collapsing the economy is, also not a good idea. No economy = no health system. There are plenty of alternatives to lockdowns it just requires a bit of planning and intelligence. Neither of those attributes are in supply with this goverment
Deleted User wrote: » A few off the top of my head: - Cocoon elderly and medically vulnerable as best as possible until a vaccine arrives for them.
- Immediately start putting more money into increasing ICU capacity. This should of been a priority during the first wave.
- Start openly discussing treatments being tried/proving successful. More information on things like vitamins etc that boost the immune system and help if one is to become infected. For example, something simple like Vitamin D deficieny has been noted in many of the more serious cases. Discuss this through the media. Everything is very hush-hush as to how people are actually being treated. It's all just "we need a vaccine".
- Maintain similar restrictions to level 2-3 or so in regards to workplaces, transport, cafes, restaurants, sporting events etc. Still allows a level of living whilst moving forward cautiously.
Deleted User wrote: » A few off the top of my head: - Cocoon elderly and medically vulnerable as best as possible until a vaccine arrives for them. - Immediately start putting more money into increasing ICU capacity. This should of been a priority during the first wave. - Stop media scaremongering in relation to "case number" headlines. More focus on the numbers that actually matter: hospitalisations, ICU, and deaths. - Start openly discussing treatments being tried/proving successful. More information on things like vitamins etc that boost the immune system and help if one is to become infected. For example, something simple like Vitamin D deficieny has been noted in many of the more serious cases. Discuss this through the media. Everything is very hush-hush as to how people are actually being treated. It's all just "we need a vaccine". - The rest of the workforce and those not medically at risk from Covid need to get on with things in as sensible fashion as possible. Maintain good hygiene, social distancing, mask wearing etc. We can't "burn down the village to save it". We'll lose more people from that than Covid. - Maintain similar restrictions to level 2-3 or so in regards to workplaces, transport, cafes, restaurants, sporting events etc. Still allows a level of living whilst moving forward cautiously. - Fines for any people throwing big house parties etc, along with those who attend. As skeptical as I am towards these yo-yo lockdowns, increased restrictions/surveillance, and where it may all lead in future etc etc, big house parties and the like are just irresponsible at this stage. - Stop restricting vital health services, screenings, operations etc. Trying to prevent Covid deaths by delaying cancer services, heart operations etc makes no sense. These diseases are more deadly, and will kill more people than Covid ever will.
end of the road wrote: » they are absolutely objective, as i said i check a number of different sources for my news and all of them, from lbc to ITV generally provide the same information, which shows that absolutely the likes of rte and bbc are objective. they also have to be by law and the guidelines that they work under.
Deleted User wrote: » Why do you think CNN is completely anti-Trump, whereas Fox and the like are usually pro-Trump? Because they're funded by different corporations and different sides of the political spectrum. I'll give you an example of RTE concealing/editing key information, and not being fully transparent. Lisa Smith, who went off to join ISIS and establish the caliphate, was interviewed afterwards about going over there. RTE ran that interview. On RTE, the end of the interview went: Q: "Do you regret it?" A: "I do regret it..." CUT. END INTERVIEW. How the interview actually ended: Q: "Do you regret it?" A: "I do regret it... because we didn't succeed". END INTERVIEW. Cutting out that line completely changes the end of the interview and viewer perception. That is not objective or honest news. If you still can't understand this, I can't help you anymore.
Deleted User wrote: » I'll give you an example of RTE concealing/editing key information, and not being fully transparent. Lisa Smith, who went off to join ISIS and establish the caliphate, was interviewed afterwards about going over there. RTE ran that interview. On RTE, the end of the interview went: Q: "Do you regret it?" A: "I do regret it..." CUT. END INTERVIEW. How the interview actually ended: Q: "Do you regret it?" A: "I do regret it... because we didn't succeed". END INTERVIEW. Cutting out that line completely changes the end of the interview and viewer perception. That is not objective or honest news. If you still can't understand this, I can't help you anymore.
is_that_so wrote: » And their mental health for this 6-12 month plan?
is_that_so wrote: » Risk of people going down the self-medicating route and quackery. Already a programme for Vitamin D supplement in kids in winter.
mikekerry wrote: » Great Post. Just one other thing to add stop falsifying case numbers by putting people down who dont rturn up for a test as positive.
SusieBlue wrote: » Did someone really just refer to the loss over over 200k jobs this week as the loss of a ‘very small, luxury part of the economy’ or are my eyes deceiving me. There is nothing small about shutting down retail, hotels, pubs, restaurants, gyms, beauticians, and hairdressers/barbers, among so many other smaller businesses and industries. They are essential services to those who are employed in them and their clients. The last time we had level 5 restrictions we had over 1.2 million people relying on financial support from the state, that is not a small amount of people and they should not be written off as collateral damage in this suicide mission the government are hell bent on sending us on. It’s such an insensitive thing to say.
end of the road wrote: » i thought you put me on ignore? so why are you responding to my points now? anyway, i'm afraid they are very much luxury services in the great scheme of things and if it is a choice between restricting them temporarily and losing much bigger, essential services then pubs jymns etc being restricted is the least worst option as such sectors will eventually recover. there was no economic damage free covid 19, i wish there was but there isn't and priorities have to be made as we can't save every job even if we threw open the doors.
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