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Deutschland 83/86/89 [SundanceTV] [Spoilers]

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Deutschland 83 is a German television series about a 24 year-old East Germany native, who in 1983 is sent to the West as an undercover spy for the Stasi foreign service. The show is a co-production with the American channel SundanceTV. The show was originally broadcast in Germany and is now being shown on SundanceTV with english subtitles.

I just finished watching the first episode of Deutschland 83 and it was fantastic. It's a good tight story that moves at a fast pace. They got a lot of information across cleary, in one episode. I really enjoyed the training montage. The music was fantastic with Eurythmics, Nena, 10CC, New Order and a few German tacks that I did't recognise. Also, a few blasts from the past with Woolworths and calculator watches. The english subtitles are excellent, I have watched many other foreign language shows with aftermarket subtitles that were sometimes confusing but these were excellent, very clear and correct English.

Episode three was aired in the states last night. I've only seen the first one so far, I'll have to watch two and three to get caught up. But so far this is looking really good.

Has anyone else watched this and what did you think?

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Reputable Rog

Acosta wrote: »

Might have said this already, but it's a pity there was never a second season of The Same Sky. I think they probably got the look and feel of what it must have been like to live in the DDR and the whole craft of being a spy a lot better.

Agree. Talk about a cliffhanger.

Roald Dahl

Been keeping an eye on this one and we recently rewatched 83 and 86!

I just quickly checked there, but could find no further info on when we can watch it in Ireland.

Anyway, the trailer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6lyhIBHuSI

Looks like there is plenty of excitement!

Acosta

Theres nothing anywhere about when or if it's going to be on Channel 4 or RTE. Unfortunately I'd say it will be early next year before it's on either. Such a shame it's simply not on Amazon in these parts too.

Full_Circle_81

Acosta wrote: »

Theres nothing anywhere about when or if it's going to be on Channel 4 or RTE. Unfortunately I'd say it will be early next year before it's on either. Such a shame it's simply not on Amazon in these parts too.

I'd rather watch it on the telly than on Amazon though. Amazon doesn't do proper subtitles for the show, only audio descriptive ones!

Acosta

Full_Circle_81 wrote: »

I'd rather watch it on the telly than on Amazon though. Amazon doesn't do proper subtitles for the show, only audio descriptive ones!

They're bad, but watchable. At least you don't need a magnifying glass to see them like the RTE subs for D86. Amazon do need to sort out their subs though. They don't even work when using chromecast via the phone app. I must connect the laptop to the TV each time.

Full_Circle_81

Acosta wrote: »

They're bad, but watchable. At least you don't need a magnifying glass to see them like the RTE subs for D86. Amazon do need to sort out their subs though. They don't even work when using chromecast via the phone app. I must connect the laptop to the TV each time.

Don't get me wrong, I understand the need to have audio descriptive subtitles, but the omission of regular subtitles on a show that's all German is just super lazy on Amazon's part. It almost seems like a mistake. But then their subtitling issues are rampant, so much so that I tend to avoid watching anything on their service that has foreign dialogue in it.

I was watching the German show "4 Blocks" and you specifically had to switch subtitles on, but I got fed up with certain scenes or lines of dialogue that were missing any translation.

I was watching The Missing (English show, but set in France for season 1), but stopped when I realized that the French scenes were supposed to be subtitled but weren't.

Hilariously, there was one show I had no problems with (French show, The Bureau), and they removed it before I finished it!

It's such an inconsistent service that while watching The Boys recently, an exchange happens in French (no subtitles) and I panicked thinking "are they missing or am I just not supposed to know what they're saying?!".

Amazon are a hot mess.

prinzeugen

Roald Dahl wrote: »

Been keeping an eye on this one and we recently rewatched 83 and 86!

I just quickly checked there, but could find no further info on when we can watch it in Ireland.

Anyway, the trailer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6lyhIBHuSI

Looks like there is plenty of excitement!

The auto translate on youtube is good.

I will be able to watch a English subtitled version in the next few weeks.

Having watched the trailer.. I do not know what to make of it. It might be because I am old enough to remember that brodcast. My mum Cried.

The world did.

prinzeugen

Roald Dahl wrote: »

Been keeping an eye on this one and we recently rewatched 83 and 86!

I just quickly checked there, but could find no further info on when we can watch it in Ireland.

Anyway, the trailer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6lyhIBHuSI

Looks like there is plenty of excitement!

iguana

prinzeugen wrote: »

My mum Cried.

The world did. Happy tears.

I was 11 going on 12 and it's the first time I ever cried happy tears. I'd never understood before that how people would cry when happy but watching those scenes brought up such strong emotions in me that I cried.

prinzeugen

Just finished the first episode of 89. Very good!

prinzeugen

The wall is down by the end of the first episode.

iguana

I've watched the first 4. I'd love to say I was going to space them out but I won't. I'm preferring 89 to 86 so far. It's a pity Ludwig Trepte's Alex has no place in the story. He was fairly pointlessly shoehorned into 86, though, so it's probably better that we don't see him than have lots of scenes with little bearing on the plot just to include him. I'm assuming at this point that, speculation,

the fall of communist Romania will be a big part of the finale. The Ceaușescus were tried on Christmas day, so that neatly leads into the end of 89, with a little bit of time for a wrap up on NYE as the decade closes.

Roald Dahl

Where are you both watching it? On Amazon and located in Germany?

I can see it on amazon.de, but it is not available to me due to being in Ireland.

Rasmus

Any pointers how one could watch '89 from Ireland?

Homelander

Really enjoying it. As someone else said, probably more than 86, which was good, but the first half of the season dragged a bit. This is far better paced.

jrmb

Acosta wrote: »

Might have said this already, but it's a pity there was never a second season of The Same Sky. I think they probably got the look and feel of what it must have been like to live in the DDR and the whole craft of being a spy a lot better.

For anyone interested, "A Perfect Crime" is an interesting watch.

Harry Palmr

I was looking at a Variety article which stated that Freemantle International are going with Channel 4 again for the UK market, obviously that'll do for us as well. Maybe Amazon will get first dibs and then C4 as the secondary market. If that's true then it could be well into 2021 before it's FTA.

brian_t

Acosta wrote: »

Might have said this already, but it's a pity there was never a second season of The Same Sky. I think they probably got the look and feel of what it must have been like to live in the DDR and the whole craft of being a spy a lot better.

More4 is showing The Same Sky later this month.

mailforkev

Starts on Sundance network in the States on 29th October so hopefully available via the usual with English subs after then.

Edit, just spotted it’s already started in Australia so must be on t’interwebs already with subs.

Homelander

mailforkev wrote: »

Starts on Sundance network in the States on 29th October so hopefully available via the usual with English subs after then.

Edit, just spotted it’s already started in Australia so must be on t’interwebs already with subs.

It's been available for almost a month with eng subs.

mailforkev

Homelander wrote: »

It's been available for almost a month with eng subs.

Indeed it is. Looking forward to seeing how it all plays out now.

cdgalwegian

brian_t wrote: »

More4 is showing The Same Sky later this month.

Available at the moment.

Roald Dahl

Any update as to when this can be seen in Ireland?

Is it still Bückware?

Testament1

Loved season 1 of this. Started into it after bingeing through Dark so it was great to continue the German drama. Season 2 is showing up on Prime Video for me but only to buy or rent. I have no intention of paying extra when I'm already paying for the prime subscription. Anyone found a version with the Spanish audio and English subs? My wife is South American, we watched season 1 this way on Prime.

Acosta

Roald Dahl wrote: »

Any update as to when this can be seen in Ireland?

Is it still Bückware?

It's on Channel 4 next month.

trashcan

Boskowski wrote: »

Only weakness was in episode 4 I think; the whole Linda thing between where she found out he's the spy and her death makes no sense at all. But other than that very well done and very entertaining. Good pace and like the actors too. Probably one of the best TV series that has come out of Germany. Really recommend it.

I’ve just discovered this on All4 and I think it’s brilliant. Am mid way through 86 at the moment, so I haven’t read all of this thread for fear of spoilers. I did think that part of 83 didn’t make much sense. He spots Linda from a bridge in the city and suddenly she’s running through woods away from him. It was like there was a scene missing. Anyway, a minor enough quibble. It’s still the best tv I’ve see since Narcos. Is 89 been shown at the moment ? If so, where ?

Edit, scrap that question. I hadn’t seen the post above mine before I wrote it.

Harry Palmr

Deutschland 89 starts on More4 at 9pm on 26 February

Curlysue76

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Deutschland 89 starts on More4 at 9pm on 26 February

Yaaaaaay, can’t wait

brian_t

There is an interview with the writers and stars in todays Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/feb/03/deutschland-89-stasi-horror-spy-trilogy

Barna77

I suppose it will be available on the All4 website?