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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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Cody montana

He seems to have binge tweeted yesterday after Fox News confirmed The Atlantic story.

Breitbart was used multiple times.
Desperation is setting in.

westdublin

Kidchameleon wrote: »

The "losers" story is obviously made up as a result of Trump gaining ground this week. Everything is from "sources", nothing concrete & no journalism is being done (part of the Atlantic story has already been debunked). If you take a look at unbiased polls, Trump has been playing a stormer this week, he is seen as tough against rioting & Americans see the riots as the Democrats fault. Biden has literally been playing catch up all week (look at him following trump to Kenosha like a puppy for example). Looking at the narrative in thread, its pretty obvious that there is noting going for Biden except lies. Hell, there's far more evidence of the Tara Read accusations that this baloney. As nuts as Trump might be, he would NEVER say that and nobody honestly believes he did either.

Can you link to some of these "unbiased polls" please.

francois

https://twitter.com/JenGriffinFNC/status/1301975321495973889?s=19

Looks like his favourite propaganda outfit is turning.

dwayneshintzy

You say that "no journalism is being done"........is independent checking of quotes by multiple sources not journalism? What is journalism under your standards, then?

dwayneshintzy

What part of The Atlantic story has been debunked?

In his denials, Trump has lied about calling McCain a loser and has lied about phoning Melania "in Washington" when he was in Paris. How can you trust what he's saying as he literally lies to you? Fox News and the AP have both confirmed the quotes in The Atlantic story.

What "unbiased" polls are you talking about?

Kidchameleon

The "losers" story is obviously made up as a result of Trump gaining ground this week. Everything is from "sources", nothing concrete & no journalism is being done (part of the Atlantic story has already been debunked). If you take a look at unbiased polls, Trump has been playing a stormer this week, he is seen as tough against rioting & Americans see the riots as the Democrats fault. Biden has literally been playing catch up all week (look at him following trump to Kenosha like a puppy for example). Looking at the narrative in thread, its pretty obvious that there is noting going for Biden except lies. Hell, there's far more evidence of the Tara Read accusations that this baloney. As nuts as Trump might be, he would NEVER say that and nobody honestly believes he did either.

francois

Those pee pee tapes must really be something...

dwayneshintzy

Has Trump ever "erred" against Putin, and criticised him publicly?

There's plenty of examples of him rushing to criticise supposed "allies"; Merkel, Macron, Trudeau and many others. Why no Putin?

Why does a man who loves saying "I've heard this from many people" about total bull****, want incontrovertible and public evidenced that Putin personally poisoned Navalny? Who could have possible poisoned the leading opponent of the Russian state with novichok, if not the Russian state?

y0ssar1an22

mcmoustache wrote: »

Not contradict allies and his intel services to defend the guy who he, for some reason, won't criticise. We still don't have a reasonable reason for him behaving like Putin's bottom bitch.

what has NATO said that trump has contradicted?

he's asking for proof of a government level assassination of a massive putin opponent.

i don't see the problem with that at all, showing some restraint. can you imagine the potential fallout if those allegations are true/or false?

better to err on the side of caution.

mcmoustache

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

cant see how this can possibly be a criticism of trump...not condemning russian (governmental involvement) of a pretty heinous political crime without proof?

what do you expect him to do, like really? with no proof of anything? what would you have him do?

Not contradict allies and his intel services to defend the guy who he, for some reason, won't criticise. We still don't have a reasonable reason for him behaving like Putin's bottom bitch.

y0ssar1an22

mcmoustache wrote: »

By pretending that there was doubt over Russian State involvement in Nalvani's poisoning from a poison that you don't exactly get off the pharmacy shelf.

cant see how this can possibly be a criticism of trump...not condemning russian (governmental involvement) of a pretty heinous political crime without proof?

what do you expect him to do, like really? with no proof of anything? what would you have him do?

mcmoustache

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

how did he back up putin?

By pretending that there was doubt over Russian State involvement in Nalvani's poisoning from a poison that you don't exactly get off the pharmacy shelf.

Timberrrrrrrr

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i heard that trump brokered a peace deal, i thought he might be nominated for a peace prize. i was mistaken.

i need to do more research on the topic.

Yup

y0ssar1an22

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

What peace deal was this?

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

gaddafi and libya?

re my ME comments, lets perhaps forget those as i think they are incorrect.

i heard that trump brokered a peace deal, i thought he might be nominated for a peace prize. i was mistaken.

i need to do more research on the topic.

y0ssar1an22

mcmoustache wrote: »

Why does he insist on backing up Putin?

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1302002915217940480

how did he back up putin?

'it tragic its terrible, it shouldn't happen' - everyone feels the same

'we haven't had any proof yet' - do you expect him to condemn russia with no proof?

Timberrrrrrrr

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i think he's the 1st president not to invade another country, and by all accounts has brokered a peace deal in the ME that his predecessors have failed to do.

perhaps he was alluding to the futility of war, anyone that does that is a loser?

What peace deal was this?

mcmoustache

Why does he insist on backing up Putin?

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1302002915217940480

y0ssar1an22

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Trump is such a ****ing stupid idiot. How anyone can support him is beyond me. Consistently more holes in the nonsense he spouts than a fine cheese.

i think everyone in this thread agrees.

the question for the american electorate is; is joe more of (to use your words) 'a ****ing stupid idiot'?

i think there is evidence to suggest so.

ChikiChiki

Trump is such a ****ing stupid idiot. How anyone can support him is beyond me. Consistently more holes in the nonsense he spouts than a fine cheese.

y0ssar1an22

Cody montana wrote: »

What country did Obama invade?
You know, the last president.

A peace deal in the Middle East?
Do you know anything about Palestine or Iran?
Can you call it a peace deal when countries are getting bombed?

gaddafi and libya?

re my ME comments, lets perhaps forget those as i think they are incorrect.

y0ssar1an22

DubInMeath wrote: »

Didn't take long and incorrect in a whole post well done.

i said think so appsolutely am open to correction.

i do believe the reports - he said something similar about john mc cain a few years back.

Cody montana

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i think he's the 1st president not to invade another country, and by all accounts has brokered a peace deal in the ME that his predecessors have failed to do.

perhaps he was alluding to the futility of war, anyone that does that is a loser?

What country did Obama invade?
You know, the last president.

A peace deal in the Middle East?
Do you know anything about Palestine or Iran?
Can you call it a peace deal when countries are getting bombed?

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y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i think he's the 1st president not to invade another country, and by all accounts has brokered a peace deal in the ME that his predecessors have failed to do.

perhaps he was alluding to the futility of war, anyone that does that is a loser?

Didn't take long and incorrect in a whole post well done.

PropJoe10

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Anti Trumpers, clinging onto another big nothing burger.

U OK hun?

namloc1980

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i think he's the 1st president not to invade another country, and by all accounts has brokered a peace deal in the ME that his predecessors have failed to do.

perhaps he was alluding to the futility of war, anyone that does that is a loser?

Have to say I wasn't expecting the angle to be that it was some sort of philosophical commentary on the futility of war.

Sweetemotion

Anti Trumpers, clinging onto another big nothing burger.

y0ssar1an22

i think he's the 1st president not to invade another country, and by all accounts has brokered a peace deal in the ME that his predecessors have failed to do.

perhaps he was alluding to the futility of war, anyone that does that is a loser?

Carfacemandog

Billy Mays wrote: »

Be interesting to see how the performing troupe spin this one

I'll take "link dump like hell and stuff the thread with absolutely anything else to try and push this back a few pages, and after that just pretend it didn't happen" for 500.

namloc1980

Look who stood in for Trump at the US cemetery at the WWI commemorations at Aisne Marne in 2018 which Trump reportedly refused to attend....John Kelly.

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mcmoustache

Why are they wheeling out this tired geriatric?

It's elder cruelty.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1302001919884513287

Perhaps this angle of attack on Biden was ill advised.