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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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timsey tiger

Kidchameleon wrote: »

"...we are working with Europe on their difficulty's and we are going to help them all the way."

Its also nice that the Trump administration is giving aid to us in Europe, this is also a vote winner.

Naive much, you do know Donnie ended up getting money from Russia to prop. up his business, because he couldn't/wouldn't pay his creditors ranging from small family business he repeatedly stiffed, to international banks.

Timberrrrrrrr

biko wrote: »

Trump has now brokered the historic UAE/Israel deal, and shook hands with Kim Jong-un, all in his first term.
And not started any wars.

The first peace president in decades.

What did Trump do?

More than likely this was done in the background and he only found out about it after it was all done.

namloc1980

biko wrote: »

Trump has now brokered the historic UAE/Israel deal, and shook hands with Kim Jong-un, all in his first term.
And not started any wars.

The first peace president in decades.

Yes, great that the well known devastating war between the UAE and Israel is now over. Shook hands and sent beautiful love letters to a tyrant who has continued to launch missiles.

Peace President? Trump has authorised more drone strikes in his 3.5 years than Obama did in 8 years. He also has suppressed mechanisms requiring the reporting of civilian deaths from drone strikes. The lies just roll off the tongue from Trump and his supporters.

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-47480207

Timberrrrrrrr

namloc1980 wrote: »

Yes, great that the well known devastating war between the UAE and Israel is now over. Shook hands and sent beautiful love letters to a tyrant who has continued to launch missiles.

Peace President? Trump has authorised more drone strikes in his 3.5 years than Obama did in 8 years. He also has suppressed mechanisms requiring the reporting of civilian deaths from drone strikes. The lies just roll off the tongue from Trump and his supporters.

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-47480207

In Trumps world Drone strikes are like Covid cases/deaths, if no one knows about them then they never happened.

salmocab

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

What did Trump do?

More than likely this was done in the background and he only found out about it after it was all done.

If he’d been involved we’d have heard about it constantly.

Timberrrrrrrr

salmocab wrote: »

If he’d been involved we’d have heard about it constantly.

And thats why it was kept quiet until it was a done deal, he would have barged in trying to get in the limelight and fùcked it up somehow.

Faugheen

The Unbearables wrote: »

I haven't been paying attention to the polls for obvious reasons but iv'e just had a look there and bunker Joe is on average holding a 6% lead over the president at this stage. Clinton was almost double that at 11% at the same stage 4 years ago and yet still lost.

FiveThirtyEight has the average at 8.5%, which is a higher average than Hilary’s peak.

You chat absolute bollocks here, mate.

Danzy

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

What did Trump do?

More than likely this was done in the background and he only found out about it after it was all done.

ðŸ˜

Slowyourrole

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Sure trump was 3/1 on election night 2016, wouldnt take the odds into account for now.

Especially with all the cheating he's been doing. The extent to which he manages to suppress voters will be the only deciding factor.

Chris_Heilong

Slowyourrole wrote: »

Especially with all the cheating he's been doing. The extent to which he manages to suppress voters will be the only deciding factor.

I think he was worried about the cheating regarding mail in voters, that is why he brought up mail in voting fraud concerns so early last year. He is an ass but he is not a bad president, when the news outlets have to make up stories('very fine people', Russian collusion, Mexicans...are animals) in order to discredit him you know he is doing things right. I used to hate him too before realising most of the stuff I disliked him for were lies.

Much of it is also just political theater, for example Trumps has been friends with the Clinton's in the past and even donated to Clinton campaign. If there was a better candidate this time around I would say vote for them regardless of party but there is not.

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Chris_Heilong wrote: »

I think he was worried about the cheating regarding mail in voters, that is why he brought up mail in voting fraud concerns so early last year. He is an ass but he is not a bad president, when the news outlets have to make up stories('very fine people', Russian collusion, Mexicans...are animals) in order to discredit him you know he is doing things right. I used to hate him too before realising most of the stuff I disliked him for were lies.

Much of it is also just political theater, for example Trumps has been friends with the Clinton's in the past and even donated to Clinton campaign. If there was a better candidate this time around I would say vote for them regardless of party but there is not.

He's an atrocious and highly divisive president that has failed to achieve anything politically. Also for a man who intended to drain the swamp, he has an incredible amount of staff that ended up in jail and ones that he even went as far as helping out eg Roger Stone.

In relation to mail in voting, there is not an established basis for such fraud affecting an election. We have a far more established basis for Russian election interference which he has made no effort to combat. If anything he's trying to hijack the postal service in an effort to win the election.

Overheal

Mail in vote suppression caught with its hands in the cookie jar

https://twitter.com/isaachayes3/status/1294130263153348608?s=21

https://twitter.com/georgeegirl/status/1294031787564253184?s=21

USPS now caught at this activity have pinky promised not to remove any more before the election.

dwayneshintzy

Faugheen wrote: »

FiveThirtyEight has the average at 8.5%, which is a higher average than Hilary’s peak.

You chat absolute bollocks here, mate.

He's been called out by many people now for it, and he won't respond. Here's 2016 vs 2020 (so far) in the polling averages;

2016

2020

Muahahaha

sydthebeat wrote: »

Obviously the huge glaring difference between then and now is that trump is no longer an unknown quantity....

His quantity and quality are all too well known unfortunately

Thats the bit that Trump supporters just dont seem to get, they constantly point to 2016 and the polls as evidence that he is still going to win here.

Problem with that is he was an unknown quantity in 2016 and that coupled with an unpopular Hillary meant some voters said well lets just give this guy a chance. He has had his chance now and the results of it arent looking great. The political circumstances for the 2020 election are entirely different from the 2016 one.

Anyway Michael Cohens book is set to be released on Sept 8th. In it we are going to learn the details of Trump getting a golden shower in Las Vegas, fun times ahead. The Orange One likes to be pissed on, it'll be interesting to see what the evangelicals make of this one

Timberrrrrrrr

Love this one

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1294636713051131909?s=19

biko

namloc1980 wrote: »

Yes, great that the well known devastating war between the UAE and Israel is now over. Shook hands and sent beautiful love letters to a tyrant who has continued to launch missiles.

Peace President? Trump has authorised more drone strikes in his 3.5 years than Obama did in 8 years. He also has suppressed mechanisms requiring the reporting of civilian deaths from drone strikes. The lies just roll off the tongue from Trump and his supporters.

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-47480207

The Bureau of Investigative Journalism started tracking drone strikes in Afghanistan in 2015. As an official war zone, Afghanistan is typically classified separately from the drone campaign, because the U.S. military operates openly and has more strategic options. The vast majority of the 2,243 strikes attributed to Trump took place there.

In August 2017, Trump gave a speech announcing an escalation in Afghanistan. It’s hardly a secret. And it’s unclear whether the increase in drone strikes represents an increase in overall military activity or just greater reliance on drones relative to manned aircraft or ground operations.

An apples-to-apples comparison of drone strikes in Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia shows more continuity between administrations than disruption. The BBC’s claim is misleading and merits a correction. Worries about Trump’s management of the drone program compared to Obama’s derive, at least in part, from inaccurate information.
https://warontherocks.com/2019/04/trump-cancels-drone-strike-civilian-casualty-report-does-it-matter/