Deleted User wrote: » How is it being handled in those countries that have laws on face coverings in public preceeding COVID. Are there places with conflicting laws both preventing and requiring the use use of face coverings in public?
GT89 wrote: » It's people who are wearing that are creating more conflict and tensions than people without masks. People without masks are going about their business as normal and are then confronted by people with masks causing issues. Haven't seen or heard of any arguments created by non mask wearers. Heard a bus driver over in England saying that it's people with masks causing arguments wirh people not wearing them and drivers for letting them on whilst non mask wearers are not causing any hassle towards drivers and passengers.
joeguevara wrote: » I would be interested in reading this (this is not a prove it post). I tried searching for an article but couldn’t find one. Would you be able to send it or post it.
weldoninhio wrote: » https://qactus.fr/2020/08/03/q-scoop-le-juge-des-referes-condamne-la-ville-de-strasbourg/
xhomelezz wrote: » It doesn't say too much.. Plus that pdf you can download is dated from may..
Jim_Hodge wrote: » That's absurd considering all the hard evidence of people arguing and shouting because they have been asked to wear a face covering. You're just making stuff up. Grow up. Mask up. It's tiresome reading your waffle at this stage, when it's clear you're just looking for a reaction. #IGNORE.
Jim_Hodge wrote: » That's absurd considering all the hard evidence of people arguing and shouting because they have been asked to wear a face covering.
Tipperary animal lover wrote: » Say that to the wife of the French bus driver that was beaten to death for asking 3 lads to wear a mask, it's legal in uk on public transport to wear a mask so the f*ckwits not wearing them are in the wrong full stop .... there's the conflict abide by the rules and there will be no conflict, either that walk to your destination if ya don't want to wear a mask.
GT89 wrote: » Except most bus drivers couldn't care less about passengers without masks. It was other passengers having a go at a passenger without a mask despite not knowing if the person was medically exempt. Why do you want conflict so much why can't you just accept some aren't wearing masks and get on with you daily basis.
odyssey06 wrote: » Because it's the law of the land. Buses aren't free for all zones. The bus driver could have just as easily been pulling them up for not paying, smoking, drinking, taking drugs or hassling other passengers. Scum are scum, this was just another way for them to demonstrate their thuggery. Society should not surrender to idiocy or thuggery. Doubtless the scum responsible weren't perfectly law abiding citizens other than this one instance. Welcome to the debate where you are defending scumbags who killed a bus driver and you are more bothered by the masks aspect than their despicable behaviour.
GT89 wrote: » Where was I defending people that killed that bus driver in France? I didn't even mention it. All I'm saying that people with masks are more arguments in general than those without. Your talking completely through your ho? Your probably the type that would have a go at someone not wearing a mask. I see people coming into the shop on a daily basis without masks they are not causing any issues the arguments I have seen have been started by people wearing masks. You sound like the type who'd be harrasing someone without a mask alright. Or if you saw people on a bus without masks you'd proably start hassling the bus driver.
The Taoiseach confirmed this week that face masks would become mandatory in shops and shopping centres from August 10
Gardaí will be called “as a last resort” to deal with people who refuse to wear face masks in shops from next week, the Justice Minister has said. Helen McEntee said the Government hoped law enforcement would only be needed in a small minority of cases, as has happened with rules about masks on public transport.
i_surge wrote: » I think Ireland has done a great job generally handling Covid. Our biggest weakness is we have a mild dose of the freedom fighter flu. It is a new level of intellectual deficit that could only happen in America and it is tragic that we imported some of it.
is_that_so wrote: » Our success was from distancing, restrictions and eventually good testing and contact tracing. You can imagine it was something else if you wish just as you can imagine that sneering at people makes you somehow superior to them. To quote Hemingway “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” You've a way to go!
xhomelezz wrote: » Sorry guys, but wouldn't call it succes. We kind of got away..so far.
i_surge wrote: » Bollox Is it noble to wilfully suffer the inferiority of others without complaint? The paradox of tolerance applies here in full effect.
odyssey06 wrote: » Too long to shut down international travel. Lot of avoidable deaths in nursing homes, lot of healthcare workers infected - our testing wasn't good enough and it took too long to get masks policy updated. Some of the PPE orders from China were a joke, while Irish suppliers had their hands up asking how they could help. On the other hand, I thought the actual lockdown was managed pretty well. So given the context of this thread, I would have to rate them "better late than never" on masks.
is_that_so wrote: » And of course you know better! And the mask drops so to speak. Find it quite baffling why people choose to obsess about the lives of others they don't give two hoots about normally.
is_that_so wrote: » We did get somewhat lucky, perhaps in our timing of decisions, but what we did we did pretty well. I'd call that a success.
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