caveat emptor wrote: » Cool so you aren't so concerned about the education part of the schools? It was just the free child care. Got you.
Alrigghtythen wrote: » It's too dangerous. But then you dont care Got you
caveat emptor wrote: » So you are giving up? I thought you wanted solutions. Let's look at Korea , Denmark, Finland or dare I say New Zealand....... No you just want extremes. Good luck.
Sammy2012 wrote: » If the government are waiting for the ECDC recommendations for opening schools why did they issue the "guidelines" they did on Monday? Are they going to change again when they read them? How are people supposed to plan and prepare?? Could we not just have gone with a workable plan in the start rather than setting ourselves up for failure before we even start?
donfers wrote: » ridiculously self-important post this is a pandemic, do your job and get on with it there are risks of course, but everything is relative, there are huge risks associated with not opening hundreds of thousands have lost their jobs and would give their right arm to be in the teachers' position so spare me the hero complex bs and get on with your job Thank the stars other key occupations facing similar or greater risks haven't been so craven
caveat emptor wrote: » I suppose the meat factory workers aren't craven. Maybe they just didn't know the risks? Maybe their "Health and Safety risk assessment" didn't factor in the fact that virus is airborne? Could it have been because someone desperately needed the two weeks pay after holidays so didn't quarantine? 50% of those cases were asymptomatic. Guess we'll never know. Horrible attitude calling a whole profession and parents of children cowardly. Disgraceful attitude. It's quite obvious who needs a baby sitter vs those who actually want their child to live a long and healthy life and learn something.
Murple wrote: » Taken from RTE news: "Mr Ghebreyesus insisted that "young people must take the same precautions to protect themselves and protect others as everyone else". "Young people can be infected, young people can die, and young people can transmit the virus to others." Michael Ryan, WHO's emergencies director, also stressed that very little is still known about the long term effects of even mild Covid-19 infections. "This disease while it may be mild, it may be moderate, it can affect many organs," Mr Ryan told the briefing. "We just don't know what the long-term impact of those infections will be," he said, pointing to a study in Germany following Covid-19 patients who were never admitted to hospital, which hinted the long-term impacts could be serious."
average_runner wrote: » New Zealand doesnt depend on imports so can close off its ports. Denmark currently reporting higher daily cases than us.
I’m an overseas supplier, and I’m not sure if I should be sending goods to New Zealand under its closed border that I’ve heard about on the news – what should I do?New Zealand has not closed its border to goods or trade – imports and exports may continue to operate on the same basis as pre COVID-19.
average_runner wrote: » New Zealand doesnt depend on imports so can close off its ports.
Alrigghtythen wrote: » Maybe everyone rushed out to the shops at once and without any warning the meat factories orders where quadrupled and staff had to be in working to keep meat on the shelves. Did you buy meat over the pandemic?
am_zarathustra wrote: » If schools don't open or partially open it will double the amount of work I have to do. Remote learning, when done correctly with decent assessment for and of learning it much more nuanced than classroom teaching. Are you suggesting we just don't bother educating kids at all? My students were all working steadily bar the few we couldn't get due to family or personal circumstances, they even took exams in the last week of may like in most schools. It's not a binary situation where everyone is back in school or we sack all the teachers (when we already don't have enough but they are at a premium abroad). With that kind of thinking you should apply for a job in the DOE
GazzaL wrote: » There are only 3 options. 1) Send your kids back to school to continue their education and personal development. 2) Send your kids out into the woods to raise themselves. 3) Keep your kids locked in the house and mammy them, permanently stifling and irreparably damaging their development.
joe40 wrote: » Absolutely, I would dread having to do online learning for extended periods. It would also be mind numbing for kids regardless of how good the resources were. I have sat through webinars and any more than an hour is hard work. I really hope we can go back in September, but the risks are high. If community transmission is not kept low the virus will spread in schools. So even if that means shutting pubs /social gatherings again, the priority should be to keep community transmission low enough to allow schools to function. Schools will not be able to enforce social distancing at the levels required. Just watch teenagers on the streets. By the way although masks aren't mandatory are teachers planning to wear masks anyway? Just curious.
Alrigghtythen wrote: » Put teachers on covid payment and watch solutions magically appear in record time
Grandeeod wrote: » BOLLOX! Send them back into Schools that can provide adequate SD mearsures and if it means alternate weeks and homework, so be it. Teach them about the fact that this virus is an issue and this is the way it has to be for now. That's the parents job. This appears to be the only alternative to existing plans.
am_zarathustra wrote: » I'm hoping the ECDC just tell the DOE that that is nonsense next week. It makes no sense given the age profile in post primary and is incongruous with similar settings. I see so many students in the day. If I'm in a class I will be asking the students to wear masks and, honestly, I know 90% of the students I teach will happily comply. The others can sit way down the back. I've a parent in a nursing home who I've seen 4 times since march, they have only just allowed one of us in a week now, no job I have is worth risking not being able to go in for weeks in end. I will be 2m from any student at all times.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » But that is the responsibility not of us but of the government. The holes in it are gigantic. Reading the document it smacks of bits taken from different documents from different countries and pushed together. There are sentences left unfinished, sentences that don't fit where they are located. For a dept that had months to plan it's very very poor.
Alrigghtythen wrote: » So all the children with asthma, will you be demanding they were masks or segregating them way down the back like they are lepers?
