Boggles wrote: » He says they sound like it and in reading the press release it certainly does. Over 13s have to wear them in a business premise but not in a school. Does the virus know they are in school and leave them alone? All perfectly reasonable questions IMO.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » So where did you get "ASTI are insisting in everyone wearing masks" from or is that just your take on it?
In addition, significant changes in public policy have been introduced regarding the wearing of masks on public transport and in other enclosed spaces since the interim recommendations for the reopening of schools and educational facilities were provided to the Department in Education.
combat14 wrote: » looks like more than review for members.. querying fact phase 4 reopening hasn't even got green light yet and also that significant changes have occurred to public health policies in the interim including everyone wearing masks In retail space
Will Yam wrote: » So are you saying that going out and about is risk free?
combat14 wrote: » Asti request minister review medical advice for return to schoolhttps://www.asti.ie/news/asti-requests-minister-to-seek-review-of-medical-advice-for/
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » I'd imagine they mean for their members, and they are asking for review not insisting on everyone wearing masks like you said.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Haven't seen that anywhere, in fact surprisingly the unions seem to be optimistic albeit there's some concerns about the tight time frame involved. Maybe even they realise it's the best that can be achieved in a bad situation. Teachers unions can insist all they like and they might secure masks for their members however they don't get to dictate what hundreds of thousands of children do. Children don't have a choice about going to school in the same way that they would in going to a shop or on public transport. So what will ASTI insist on, come to school in a mask or be home schooled? Never going to happen, can you imagine the legal fallout for starters.
xhomelezz wrote: » Repeating nonsense won't make it truth. But suit yourself.
combat14 wrote: » sounds like asti are now insisting on masks for everyone in schools
Will Yam wrote: » The poster said s/he wanted his/her kids to be in a safe environment. If you want safety, take no risks, stay at home as I said. This concept of absolute safety is utter nonsense. It doesn’t exist.
Grandeeod wrote: » "Worried" parent here. My child is starting Secondary this year. 800 pupils in the school. I'm not a lock down merchant and I was all for reopening the country and our schools. However. I was also an advocate for doing this in accordance with the safety guidelines. These guidelines are repeated over and over. Even last night this is what the Acting CMO said, Shops are still limiting the amount of customers inside. I have to wear a mask on public transport and in retail settings. But the school reopening plan, says no masks required in school. All pupils back at the same time. An obvious issue that most schools cannot facilitate SD with a full compliment of pupils.No distancing on school buses despite our trains having seats marked out of use to promote SD. Its rightly being referred to as negligent. At Secondary level, the correct thing to do was alternate weeks for pupils and keep it under review. Homework given the week at home and checked on return to provide motivation. It halves the number on already stretched school transport and allows secondary schools to provide an environment that can deliver on SD throught the school. Can anyone here tell me why this wasn't looked at?
xhomelezz wrote: » Nice cheap bs reply. The poster you replied to suggested he would prefer to have kids coming in part time which actually makes sense. No overcrowding, SD possible, kids and teachers much safer. Makes sense right. And there's always some tool jumping in and saying the same nonsense as you did.
Lillyfae wrote: » You didn't- you responded to my post about home schooling by saying that the school shouldn't have to help, which had nothing to do with my post at all. Then you said that home schooling is a different thing- it's not a different thing to the homeschooling that I was referring to in my post that you quoted.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Think you'll find I made that distinction very clear.
road_high wrote: » Well stay at home then, resign. Same for the “worried” parents. Home school if you’re that bothered.
Highlighting the increase in cases in Europe, he said people must focus once again "on keeping our distance, washing our hands, wearing face coverings and continuing to make safe decisions that will protect ourselves, our friends, our families. No one is safe unless everyone is safe."
Lillyfae wrote: » I never suggested that the school should help. I was referring to home schooling.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » the school will be helping are in for a major wake-up. Now I'm aware that "home schooling' is a totally different animal.
Lillyfae wrote: » If parents are willing to homeschool they should be encouraging and supported in doing so. It could take a huge amount of pressure off the schools themselves.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » I don't see any hysteria. I see people genuinely worried by what is being proposed. By people I mean members of the wider school community, both parents and teachers. My principal said numerous parents have been contacted the school since the announcement on Monday. They are worried about the lack of SD being proposed. Same worries that us teachers have.
road_high wrote: » Home school if you’re that bothered.
xhomelezz wrote: » Don't worry, they gonna explain to you that schools in Ireland are immune to covid. And it's great idea to hunt all the kids and teachers in at the same time. What could go wrong in that scenario right.
St.Spodo wrote: » Worried that we are trying to open the schools as they were, at the expense of keeping them open. A friend of mine will be teaching 34 10/11 year olds for the year. No PPE, 5 hours a day together, everyone capable of spreading the virus at least as well as adults as recent studies have shown. Schools being open will accelerate the spread of the virus in the community under the current proposals, sadly.
