Lillyfae wrote: » Opposing your views or disagreeing with a practice doesn't equate to an insult. Lucky you don't have to deal with me in a parental capacity, right? Unfortunately, there are parents and children who have no option but to deal with you as a teacher, and you have continually insulted and portrayed them negatively throughout this thread. Far more than I have "insulted" teachers- like they're some hive mind or something...
Alrigghtythen wrote: » The teachers are supposed to be involved too according to the road map why are they leaving it all to the principal ?
Alrigghtythen wrote: » What qualification do you in microbiology or epidemology? Or is it in something else relevant?
caveat emptor wrote: » Nice spreading of blame for future legal cases. Tell me was it the nurses fault the didn't know it was airborne. Who's responsibility is that? Mind your own fvcking business what degrees I have. I'm not telling you sh!te. Do you work for a certain department who recently drew up unworkable guidelines?
wirelessdude01 wrote: » The guidelines aren't practical. The guidelines tell us to send the overflow to a different room where they will follow the class on a livestream. We have ZERO spare capacity and I don't know of any primary schools that happen to have spare teachers just hanging around looking to 'mind' said overflow. We estimate with our rooms and numbers that we would have 4 from 6th, 5 from 5th, 3 from 4th and 8 from 3rd as overflow.
Lillyfae wrote: » So feed it back up the chain then! That is the correct course of action according to the guidelines as far as I can see, request the resources!
Alrigghtythen wrote: » Spreading the blame for future legal cases. No it's about working together and supporting the principle. No qualification then that leaves you qualified to risk assess the virsus I take in, empty vessels make most noise is an old saying.
caveat emptor wrote: » Didn't say I've no qualifications..... Whoa Now now. I didn't say I don't have quals/ degrees. I just said I'd rather not reveal them to some department of education shill. I take the point about working together. I'm trying to inform people just like I tried to inform nurses and doctors back in march. The community spread needs to be lower. The kids and teachers need masks (and potentially goggles). Social distance and a REAL assessment of ventilation should be prioritised by people who actually understand how airflow works in a room. We all want to get back to normal. We must address reality and learn from other countries instead of saying it'll be grand. We like looking at Korea / Denmark and saying "sure they opened" etc then we see what they actually did and say "sure how could we do it" Didn't work out so well for us in march / April. Statistically the chances of getting a whole school community to avoid infection when we are still importing cases is extremely low and experiencing community transmission. Health and Safety law is clear. level 4 Biosafety agents are clear. The legislation around biosafety is there. It's proven to be airborne. I'd meet the definition of criminal negligence if I sent my child to school at this stage. I shalt not be doing that September. Let's check back in November.
Alrigghtythen wrote: » Are you wearing goggles when you head out and about?
caveat emptor wrote: » God we all have an opinion and are entitled to express it. Again not relevant to the debate unfortunately. Care to offer an opine on the fact that it has been discovered just yesterday that it is highly infectious via airborne transmission? Or what this means in the context of a class room without a fvcking window? No didn't think so. Enjoy your day.
Benimar wrote: » I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'd rather my kids went back part time in a safe environment, than full time under the proposed approach.
Will Yam wrote: » How many classrooms in the country have no window?
Alrigghtythen wrote: » We flip flop between prefab being cold draughty places with the possibility of catching hypothermia, to them having no windows nor ventilation
combat14 wrote: » can teachers wear facemasks in small contained room with 30 students while teaching...? for their own health and safety
Will Yam wrote: » Friend of my son is a teacher. He told me no way was he going to go into his school to do any planning. Not his job.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » You really don have a clue so if you think that is how it will actually work.
Joe Kane wrote: » What a waster he is.
Boggles wrote: » I didn't ask you where you work, healthcare encompasses a wide range of activities, some which would have very limited interactions with other humans. But since you volunteered what do you do in the healthcare sector?
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » It doesn't matter what exactly I do (and quite frankly it's none of your business) the situation and the environment is what it is.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » The point being there is no workplace free from risk, not now and there never was.
Boggles wrote: » Easy there, you were the one who volunteered the information. Well no the point you were trying to make is you work in a more risky environment then a secondary school teacher. Considering your employer makes you social distance and wear PPE and you won't volunteer exactly what environment you work in, then you quite obviously don't.
Boggles wrote: » Easy there, you were the one who volunteered the information. Well no the point you were trying to make is you work in a more risky environment then a secondary school teacher. Considering your employer makes you social distance and wear PPE and you won't volunteer what you do, then you quite obviously don't.
Joe Kane wrote: » Do you work at all or are you a representative for secondary school teachers?
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » I wear a clear visor and social distancing really only exists in a procedural document in a drawer somewhere. Many workplaces are the same, life goes on pandemic or not. Human behaviour dictates the reality of what happens day to day, we are not designed to be locked in a perspex box indefinitely. So we have to do our best to take practical steps to lessen risk and get on with it without too much interruption.
Boggles wrote: » I certainly do Joe and have done through out Covid. You wanna give me a clap? I'm a "representative" of policy based on evidence and science and how that will impact the entire country as a whole going forward during this once in a generation pandemic. Any further questions Joe?
Boggles wrote: » So nothing like a secondary school teachers environment? Grand job, glad we cleared that up eventually.
