wirelessdude01 wrote: » What's the child to adult ratio?
Icyseanfitz wrote: » I signed up for salary protection earlier this year, I'd be tempted to take sick leave. Be nice to be able to spend Christmas with my family, or meet my friends over the next few months. If I go back to work with this lack of precautions I won't see anyone other than my wife, and she is high risk on top of it all.
seamus wrote: » It should be fine to be honest. Our testing capacity is still large, and we would expect that traditional seasonal illnesses will also be way down because the hygiene procedures for Covid also reduce the incidence of these illnesses too. The very low level of international travel will also reduce the circulation of any novel viruses too. In all reality this will probably be the winter with the least amount of illness that any of us have ever experienced.
seamus wrote: » In all reality this will probably be the winter with the least amount of illness that any of us have ever experienced.
lulublue22 wrote: » What will capacity and turn around be like then and will schools be prioritised?
hollymartins wrote: » My child has been back in preschool for 4 weeks. They are split into play pods, there's stringent handwashing and the day finishes early (4.30) to allow staff deep clean the premises. We have to wash hands, check temp before morning drop off and the children/ teachers don't wear facemasks. If any of us have Covid symptoms we can't send them in. If it works for preschoolers and their teachers why are some claiming primary/secondary teachers & students require more protection?
jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: » I agree, they've been off since March
Peter Flynt wrote: » Yea well. . . I won't be providing a service if I consider at the end of August that the situation is too dangerous. I'll resign and resume working when the virus has cleared.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » Should all this not have been sorted out, say maybe months ago and not 4 weeks before Schools are back?
hmmm wrote: » If there are multiple teachers in a school testing positive, or all off sick and requiring testing, it's unlikely kids will be going to that school while Covid is circulating. That'll be obvious to a public health doctor. We're in a public health emergency. You're not going to get everything handed to you on a plate, it will require some element of figuring things out as we go along.
Lillyfae wrote: » Sorry, they should be doing it now, not when the children are expecting to go back.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Seriously who put together point number 4? Why would the class teacher not teach their class when they are back in? For god's sake this is utter madness.
dundalkfc10 wrote: » Whos going to pay someone, if they need to take 2 weeks off work to mind their child (i.e bus driver/teacher etc) What happens if you have a multiple kids in diff schools, and in a 2 month period you are out for 2 weeks 3 times, one for each kid. Still get paid?
wirelessdude01 wrote: » So are public health going to come to the school on that morning and teach the class? Total rubbish. That scenario isn't too hard to imagine happening seeing as we have to stay at home if we have a sniffle.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Let's say none of them are applicable and it's a teaching principal. What happens then?
downthemiddle wrote: » Circular 45/2020 Sequence for covering all teacher absences: 1. Supply panel if the school is part of a supply panel cluster arrangement, 2. School’s own panel of regular substitutes, 3. National substitute service, 4. If no substitute is available from above options then a school may For teachers in mainstream classes, schools use other non-mainstream teachers to cover the absence. A substitute may be employed on a subsequent date when one is available. On that day, the mainstream classroom teacher will undertake non mainstream teaching and the substitute will teach the mainstream class. For non-mainstream teachers a substitute may be employed on a subsequent date when one is available. Special Needs Class teachers cannot be used in this way. 5. Administrative Principal if applicable 6. Local arrangements that facilitate the pupils to be supervised in a manner that does not involve them being split between existing classes in classrooms I would be particularly interested in an explanation of point 6.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » And who will be doing the supervising is the whole point I'm making?
Peter Flynt wrote: » The class would remain at school under supervision if a suitable teacher cannot be found. If it is a student I'm not entirely sure what the situation is as in secondary schools students have different class mates every 40 minutes for different subjects. Sending home the entire year doesn't seem like it's in the plan if a second level student is determined as having Covid. On teacher supply one important factor is this: A load of teachers approaching retirement are going to retire early and get out. Why risk your health for this? If, for example, there is one teacher in each second level school who does this (and there are already two that I know of in my school) then this would eat up the 1000 teachers supposedly being supplied. In other words . . . there will be no teachers available for substituting.
hmmm wrote: » In those scenarios public health doctors would step in and make the decision. We can't predict or document every scenario, public health will work with schools if cases arise. The situation is dynamic, and our actions will need to adapt as the external environment (community transmission etc) changes.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Example one for teachers. Teacher has suspected Covid. Has to go for testing. Test comes back positive so panel sub in for whatever length of time. A few days later a different teacher develops symptoms. Test comes back positive. No teachers available from Covid panel locally or in neighbouring countries. No standard subs available and two members of SET also call in sick that day. Class sent home is it? These are the sort of scenarios that can and will happen and they aren't looked at in the document. Money is being flung at it to appease the parents and public but no consideration has been given to what happens on the ground.
