Sammy2012 wrote: » As a teacher and a parent I'm worried about my own kids and the kids in my care. I also work in a school (which must children attend) where I know the principal will cut corners and I'm not 100% sure they school will be safe for anyone. They are currently running July provision and if my child was attending I'd be up in arms. And I'm sure I'm not alone in working in an environment like that. The guidelines are too open to interpretation so it remains to be seen what will actually happen in reality.
am_zarathustra wrote: » Also a large number of teachers, like myself, who teach science and maths in fact do have BSc's, MSc's and even some PhDs. They require you to study science to teach it.
Boggles wrote: » Also part of the "plan" is to tap 300 teachers who trained in the UK. Obviously given your stance, you would be against hiring them?
joe40 wrote: » I think part of the reason is the hassle of getting re registered. The TC are not the easiest to deal with. I had 20 years experience in NI teaching and the hassle to get registered was far too much. I still have to do a stupid exam for full registration.
JustAThought wrote: » It all seems to be bit á la carte - the government has its financial objectives in place with regard to facilitating day long childcare at any cost to trachers and children to enable the economy recover and taxes be earned. In the meantime, ton facilitate their September deadline & childminding problem they have been frantically backpedaling on their original diagnosis that children are carriers and highly contagious despite emerging graphs to the contary and Re happy for teachers to fall on their shields to facilitate ecominic growth - while changing the law to ensure that office workers must be safe in work or allowed work from home - excepting teachers of course - who else will mind the nations children and allow the economy to progress and them to continue their fiscal and financial cycle. Teachers are utterly disposable in this and to an extent so ate the children. But we can see in the lack of policing ir rangers in parks and public places where hildren are gathered in throngs and there is zero hand wiping after using playground equipment not social distancing anymore that the will to secure the health of the people is fast fading amongst copied rhetoric from other models - unlike New Zealand who put their people first and unlike itherncountries who put health above economics we are fiddling with the buttons while the house is burning. The teachers and children will pay the price and like the other great HSE and political scandals it will be swept under the carpet and shoulders shrugged. Where are the unions in this ?
Lillyfae wrote: » Apologies to you and of course you're right (PhD though, is that really necessary??), I'm thinking more of primary than secondary all the time. It's a very different animal. I fully support mandatory PPE, social distancing and 50/50 numbers where sd to 1 metre can't be maintained at secondary level.
Lillyfae wrote: » University education is unfortunately reserved for those who can pay for it in the UK, so technically I don't care where they choose to work. But as for public sector jobs in Ireland, I believe University admissions to these courses should take into consideration numbers needed in the future, and subbing should indeed be an inevitable part of paying your dues in Teaching.
Boggles wrote: » So anyone who trained at an Irish university and works for the public sector is handcuffed to the public sector for their entire working life?
Boggles wrote: » Huh? Have you been drinking?
wirelessdude01 wrote: » So people should be locked into working/staying in Ireland for let's say 10 years after qualification? What utter gutter....
Lillyfae wrote: » It's 2012. I know in 2016 that 200 teachers are going to retire, because they have reached their years of service/ retirement age (however they are working it out these days). I know I need to replace 200 teachers in 2016. Whatever do I do??
Lillyfae wrote: » Listen, I bet all your colleagues in the staff room think you're very funny and clever, but actually this constant interjection is just the noise that an empty vessel makes. The only result of it is time wasting.
Lillyfae wrote: » It's 2012. I know in 2016 that 200 teachers are going to retire, because the have reached their years of service/ retirement age (however they are working it out these days). I know I need to replace 200 teachers in 2016. Whatever do I do?? .
Lillyfae wrote: » People know this going in. Why are we training teachers for other economies??
joe40 wrote: » It is important for our children, our society and our economy that schools reopen. I want it to be as safe as possible but Education is vitally important for all sorts of reasons. There are rural children that have had minimal contact with their peers in months. My own two teenagers are examples.
zeebre12 wrote: » Regarding primary will schools be looking for full time teachers or just a substitute to do the odd day like before?
Icyseanfitz wrote: » I think instead of having excess teachers and school staff this year, we will have less. The downright hatred and negativity aimed at them by the public combined with a complete lack of care for their safety (or their kids for that matter) will lead to many early retirments and career changes. This plan has added no workable safety measures to schools, none, it flies completely in the face of public health advice and is the opposite of everything we had to do to get covid-19 to where it currently is in our country. In my opinion, it is a slap in the face not only to educators but to medical staff and other front line workers that worked so hard since March.
the corpo wrote: » Is it confirmed in the doc that kids from 3rd class up *don't* have to be a metre apart from each other within a pod of 5 or 6, but just that the pod must be a metre away from the next?
thenetherrealm wrote: » Then do your duty as a parent and organise safe, outdoor, small group gathering for your children! But no, it's easier and more convenient for you to shove them into underfunded, overcrowded classrooms of 25-30 children and not think about them for 7 hours. Bet you'll be the first one here blaming teachers for not enforcing SD when the schools inevitably close again.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Two members of staff in our school are going out on sick leave. Got told on the quiet this morning. That is out of a staff of 11. Will be interesting to see the level of long term sick leave this year where people aren't willing to take the chance.
Joe Kane wrote: » It boils my blood reading this thread and listening to the likes of Ciara Kelly coming out with statements like ''Lets face it guys the teachers are the main concern here''. It's not the main or only concern at all.
Joe Kane wrote: » Spare a thought for those of us with children that are extremely compromised too with respiratory conditions. These children and us parent's of said children seems to be completely forgotten about. It's not all about yourselves (teachers). It boils my blood reading this thread and listening to the likes of Ciara Kelly coming out with statements like ''Lets face it guys the teachers are the main concern here''. It's not the main or only concern at all.
Yosef Stocky Backspace wrote: » The arrangement for these children is covered in the documents. They are not forgotten about. And I'm sure you realise that the good doctor is being sarcastic in her statement.
