tscul32 wrote: » What seemed to be missing (I only read primary one so far) is what happens if someone in a class- student or teacher- is diagnosed? Does the whole group stay out for 2 weeks? Also found it amusing about the LWR - school should look for volunteers, if more than one volunteer there should be a vote - nothing about what happens if there are no volunteers....
khalessi wrote: » Should be a paid post at least but I suppose after giving the super Junior ministers their rise, they have nothing left.
isup wrote: » I really don't want to send my 6 year old in. As up to now we've been careful. Not having people in out house and having limited contact with people always showing social distancing. I see kids everywhere that don't observe anything like this and it's going to be a big shock mixing the kids from both sides. Especially if parents and grandparents are at risk . Just counting the days now.
gnf_ireland wrote: » Not being funny hear but are you planning to hide away in isolation until a vaccine is found and rolled out globally? What happens when the next SARS virus occurs? Life has to move on. All around me kids are mixing all the time. There have been summer camps in operation up and down the country - there has been no spike as a result of that. I am not suggesting we act like nothing is happening, but we cannot hide away for ever either ! BTW I hope all parents have to sign a declaration that they (or the kids) have not been outside the country for 14 days prior to school restarting, and it be a criminal offence with automatic expulsion from school if they are found to have made a false declaration !
tscul32 wrote: » What seemed to be missing (I only read primary one so far) is what happens if someone in a class- student or teacher- is diagnosed? Does the whole group stay out for 2 weeks?
Peter Flynt wrote: » No social distancing (the plan for 1m social distancing is boll***s - they know it can't be done) No mandatory masks/visors Suggesting 93 people in one room - A gym. No plan for what occurs when classes have to change every 40 minutes. No plan to close schools with suspected Covid cases - Bring them to a room instead. No plan to close schools with actual confirmed cases. Insufficient numbers of sub teachers for what will inevitably be large absences. Pupils told to wear MANDATORY masks on the bus to school . . but not required once there. Providing plans for classrooms of size 17-24 students - Where do I place the other 6 in my Leaving Cert Maths class? Need I go on?
downthemiddle wrote: » Thanks Donald.
meeeeh wrote: » Why would they close schools? Other countries managed perfectly well with just leaving class at home. Is there any reason why we should overreact and ignore what worked well in other countries?
khalessi wrote: » THey should also fill out a daily health questionaire before dropping children into school
gnf_ireland wrote: » BTW I hope all parents have to sign a declaration that they (or the kids) have not been outside the country for 14 days prior to school restarting, and it be a criminal offence with automatic expulsion from school if they are found to have made a false declaration !
khalessi wrote: » We already are ignoring what worked well such as masks for children, proper sd, restricted numbers in class. Most schools in other countries did not open fully or as half assed as we are.
ax530 wrote: » Wonder are they getting feedback from crèche on how things are working there? Last week news had crèche worker tested positive I'm am not sure what steps were taken if any other worker or kids were also positive but schools/ DES are lucky to have these cases to look at help with planning & decision. Also lot of children back at playground, summer camps & training all seem to be working and children happy. I in agreement with going back as 'normally' as possible kids week used hand washing, sanatizer ect now. Health industry adapted and got on with things very short notice. Pleased gov priority is this and hope principles & teachers will cooperate to get it up & running
luketitz wrote: » What if they were in a green-listed country? Do they still face your draconian expulsion measures?
KerryConnor wrote: » In answer to above I'm a parent and a primary teacher and would happily have my 2 secondary kids in half time to lesson the risk. Yes they would be home alone and were useless at working independently before the holidays but it would do for now and vaccine is approaching. I'm happy going back to my own job in primary with kids in full time as personally I think that's acceptable risk but I think secondary is too risky, not just for teachers or kids but for whole community .
khalessi wrote: » How many of those summer camps are indoors?
isup wrote: » Why are primary school kids not distancing less risky ?
KerryConnor wrote: » Secondary adult sized and most risk of transmitting according to the S Korean study. In primary they stay in same group all day. In secondary the teacher has to teach 5 or 6 different groups every day.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Nothing was ever going to be perfect and there will always be people who aren't happy with the way some things are (or aren't) done but at least it's a plan, something we've been wanting for a long time. Long overdue and schools will be under a lot of pressure now to implement it, hopefully in time for September. I'll have to have a look at the full plan in detail (the pods within pods for primary is a bit of a strange one, maybe the only way they could justify a full return but have social distancing in some form) but I'm sure schools will be issuing guidance for parents anyway.
is_that_so wrote: » Why choose Israel? Why not any one of a dozen other countries who safely reopened schools without adverse effects? Israel's problems were compounded by the use of air conditioning, an excellent vector in its own right.
khalessi wrote: » I think we should all find our TD rep and stand 40cm them without a mask, as that is the distance on some of those drawings between children and see how comfortable they feel.
khalessi wrote: » South Korean study stated that children from 10 years up (4th class here) spread the virus the same as adults, and most of 6th class were the same height or taller than me last year and Im 5ft 8. Also have a read of a few of thesehttps://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1282666347982462976.html
Icyseanfitz wrote: » There is no actual plan, it's business as usual with the pretence of having actually done something
gnf_ireland wrote: » Not disagreeing with you, but does make a mockery of this line from the letter quoted aboveThe plan has been developed by consulting with those who know best how schools run: representatives of students, parents, principals, teachers, SNAs, support staff and school management bodies, and. Their expertise has been crucial in putting this together and I am very grateful to all involved for their hard work over many weeks.
downthemiddle wrote: » You can consult without taking on board what they say.
