GazzaL wrote: » I don't give a toss if you're laughing at the points I'm making. Fair enough if you don't believe people are making masks from dirty old bedsheets. Fair enough if you don't give a **** about people, particularly elderly people, who are at higher risk of infection due to incorrect mask usage.
GazzaL wrote: » I don't give a toss if you're laughing at the points I'm making.
GazzaL wrote: » It's amazing the amount of you that have resorted to personal abuse rather than debate actual issues brought up. I guess you can't argue with facts so you attempt to hurl abuse instead. I make the point that elderly people who incorrectly wear masks are at higher risk. A bunch of simpletons decide to respond with memes to distract from that point. It's absolutely disgusting how little some of the pro mask crowd care about other people. The same mé féiners who wanted the entire country locked up indefinitely until there isn't a single case of COVID left, completely devoid of reality.
GazzaL wrote: » I make the point that elderly people who incorrectly wear masks are at higher risk.
robinph wrote: » At a higher risk of what? Swallowing their mask? Yes, you are probably right. Having a mask on incorrectly doesn't put them at a higher risk of anything though. The virus doesn't target people who wear their masks wrong.
GazzaL wrote: » So we should ignore the WHO's advice on how to correctly wear face masks because it doesn't make a difference? If an elderly person keeps touching their mask and touching their face, that's grand?
robinph wrote: » What do you think they are at risk of by touching their face while wearing a mask compared to when not wearing a mask, and why does being older increase the risk to them. It's best if people don't touch their masks, but we are not talking about being in an operating theatre here where the mask is to stop blood and other nasties reaching you. The point of wearing a mask in public spaces is to reduce the spread of your breathing upon others, not to protect you.
GazzaL wrote: » Are you actually being serious? That's completely against WHO guidance for the safe use of masks. Contaminated hands, touching/contaminating masks, touching/contaminating their face/themselves... And in case you haven't realised at this point, elderly people are particularly vulnerable and at risk from COVID-19! It goes to show that pro-mask people are either ignorant of the risks that some people face or they simply don't care about other people. As I've already said, the simple, basic messages like social distancing, good hygiene (including not touching your face!) that helped smash the numbers down are being lost by all the noise about masks.
odyssey06 wrote: » Could you reread the post you are ranting about instead of this strawman post. It already rebutted everything you said. The only ignorance on display here is your own. You still dont get that the main reason to wear masks is to protect others. After it being said to you dozens of times. This is a different rationale to mask use for healthcare workers to protect themselves.
Stark wrote: » If most people are wearing masks then a few people touching their masks or wearing them incorrectly doesn't make much of a difference as there isn't virus in the environment for them to pick up. A **** load of people use condoms incorrectly. That doesn't mean condoms are a bad idea
GazzaL wrote: » You've rebutted nothing. It's a disgrace and downright dangerous that pro-mask people are saying there's no problem with touching/fidgeting with face masks, which is completely against WHO guidelines. Even worse, they say "why does being older increase the risk to them."! Have you been asleep for the last few months while COVID-19 has run rampant amongst elderly people?
weldoninhio wrote: » If there isn’t virus in the environment for them to pick up, why tf do people need to wear masks??
odyssey06 wrote: » You seem to be half asleep reading other peoples posts. It was obvious the poster meant how does being older increase their risk of getting the virus. As distinct to their risk of serious complications should they get it. Also they did not say there was no problem. You seem to have deranged yourself into a place where you think you can use phrases like pro mask nutters because you seem unable to accept what they are writing. So you invent these contrary strawman versions of what they said.
Jim_Hodge wrote: » Just think about that for a few minutes.
GazzaL wrote: » Again with the personal abuse, because you simply can't argue with facts. Pro-Mask Crowd: It's ok to touch your mask and touch your face, it doesn't matter if you're elderly or not. WHO & GazzaL: No, it's not ok to touch your mask and touch your face. Elderly people are particularly vulnerable and at risk from COVID-19.
odyssey06 wrote: » You are throwing out phrases like promask nutters and when called out on it plead personal abuse? It doesnt matter if you are elderly or 40 when it comes to chances of getting the virus. As already explainedto you
GazzaL wrote: » Elderly people are more at risk of serious illness and death. This is sadly born out in the numbers. There is no point in trying to pretend otherwise, and I would much rather not see elderly people in particular incorrectly wearing face masks and increasing their risk of contracting the virus.
Away With The Fairies wrote: » I like this doctor and how he talks about masks in the first few minutes. Saying that if you use a medical condition as an excuse not to wear masks, you should probably stay at home.https://youtu.be/wEid0Hxt8mk
odyssey06 wrote: » Can you lay this strawman to rest. Nobody said that. Nobody. Find the post. Reread it. Thats not what they said about the risk. What was borne out by the numbers abroad is that cases drop when masks are adopted. See CDC figures for US states that have such masks rules. What was borne out by the numbers here is that cases and deaths dropped when masks policy changed to widespread use here in care and health settings. They should be wearing them properly. If you can tie shoe laces or put on a tie you can put a mask on without fidgeting withit. They are that simple. Masks make the environment safer. Elderly people are in a safer environment with everyone else masked up. And they make the environment safer for others when they mask up. This is a respiratory virus. You can sanitise your hands you cant sanitise your lungs after breathing in droplets of thevirus.
GazzaL wrote: » You need to have another read yourself. Here's a picture for the slow learners. Straight from the WHO. I see people doing at least 5 of the 7 "Don'ts" every
odyssey06 wrote: » Find the image for social distancing and handwashing. You will see people doing 7 out of 7 donts everyday. Doesnt mean we shouldnt be advocating it.
GazzaL wrote: » You need to have another read yourself. Here's a picture for the slow learners. Straight from the WHO. I see people doing at least 5 of the 7 "Don'ts" every single day of the week.
