the corpo wrote: » I may be wrong (usually am) but is this the first large scale study to examine transmission rates amongst children? I don't dispute the results at all, but it just shows how unknown this all is that a potential reason for children under 10 not being so important a factor in spreading, is that they're short! And thus not exhaling at a height to reach into adult airways. Mad, Ted. But if it's right that children from 10+ are as contagious as adults then how can there be any argument for placing 30 plus teachers crowded together into a typical Irish sized classroom? A full return will be impossible.
Wanderer78 wrote: » Is there much infection amongst the younger ones?
khalessi wrote: » The basic argument is the government need to get a workforce back in place and they couldnt manage childcare for HCW, so ignore reports about children catching it, there are been a few and just reopen schools, the best child care service and automatically you have 1.1 million children sorted between primary and secondary. All that is fine if they put in the proper investment. Why not say ok, we need to sort the schools out so they will be closed till midterm while we fix he water problems etc and make them safe to work in during a pandemic? Just put the money in like they have elsewhere.
ThunbergsAreGo wrote: » Not sure what to think on this one. I was all for it, but if pubs can't open, then schools must be under threat. Kids are like young drinks, especially the smaller ones. I think they have to try. It's not healthy for kids to not have school (or on parents sanity) and they can't stay closed forever. But then a short dose of normality and then back to closure might be as bad. Very difficult situation all round. Creches have been open a few weeks with no large uptick (or none attributed to creches). There should be almost two months of data on that by Sept So maybe its just a bite the bullet approach.
ThunbergsAreGo wrote: » I don't know is the honest answer, don't know how many have been tested. It doesn't appear to be, but most schools closed quickly so no real baseline. Creches should give us some idea. But 3, 13, 18 year old likely have a very different risk profile
mirrorwall14 wrote: » But honestly, the delay is money. Nothing more, nothing less. Every business in the country has funded changes to their business but the government are unwilling to do it works
the corpo wrote: » But I don't think people understand the amount of funding necessary, especially given the emerging evidence.
the corpo wrote: » But I don't think people understand the amount of funding necessary, especially given the emerging evidence. This most likely will go way beyond sanitisation stations. To make children from the age of 10 safe in our school buildings will most likely require....billions? The classrooms need to be entirely overhauled with proper ventilation systems installed. I mean, that won't happen, but that's the only way we can safely put a full return of children into the existing buildings.
jackboy wrote: » Schools in other countries have opened with little difficulties. We need to do the same here, open primary schools as normal, no significant changes required. Let’s be honest, there are no plans for the schools yet, there will not be significant plans developed. So, we will either have to open as normal or stay shut.
FishOnABike wrote: » Israel, Melbourne ? Opening is easy. Infection control is difficult and expensive. Without the latter schools will have to shut down again.
jackboy wrote: » Were spikes there caused by schools? I don’t think there is much evidence primary schools are responsible for spikes.
Murple wrote: » There more I see if how this virus is going, the more I think we should be aiming for half in, half out for September and review then. It would make such a difference at drop off and collection as well as in classrooms and on corridors. It would also allow for more attention to be given to settling children back to new routines with new teachers. Some countries have followed that system- one group in Mon and Tues. School closed for full clean on Wed. Second group in Thurs and Fri. Work set in school and sent home to be done at home. Other areas have had one week in, one week at home. I would much prefer everyone back in together and working as normal but I’m not sure it’s going to be possible.
Mrsmum wrote: » I have family members and a few friends who are teachers (primary) and I know in normal times, they get through tons of work keeping up with the curriculum which is double work for the teachers ie the huge behind the scenes workload and the in front of the class work. So now I am thinking, as probably children will be only in school part time, how much fluff for want of a better word is there in the curriculum ? I suppose I am really wondering if children have a year of part time schooling, will they be educationally just fine at the end of it or how educationally disadvantaged will they be for their age.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » That's all well and good but a logistical nightmare for teachers who are parents and parents who have more than one child. Working parents will have struggled along for 6 months come September. It's a disgrace that there has been no indication of what we are to prepare for. Good luck to them restarting the economy with a half assed education offering. Contingency for us here is that we've started a proposal amongst a group of working parents to allow the kids to learn together (group of 6). Similar to playdates but will be education based. We will take turns between us and hopefully all manage to hold down our jobs at the same time. I'm willing to give it a try and at least we'll have a back up plan for the inevitable clusterf**ck that will be back to school this year.
Deeec wrote: » I agree it will be a mess for working parents but I would rather see my kids so back to school part time than being off all week. I am hoping my employer will facilitate this and allow me to work from home - but he may not allow this. I can see some parents though having to give up their jobs - hopefully the government will recognise this and come up with a payment to help such parents. Also I am hearing a lot of childminders will not facilitate home schooling on the days children are not at school ( and why should they - they only paid to look after children). I don't think there is an easy solution.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » The fact that I can walk into a pub today with kids in tow (not that I would but) and have a few pints albeit with some food, but can't bring kids to school is not a good reflection on our government.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » As it currently stands schools are to be fully open come the new school year. That is the current position. How that is to be achieved is something all in education have yet to have seen laid out in a practical and workable sense.
Blondini wrote: » Who said you can't bring kids to school? Where's the announcement?
is_that_so wrote: » That's looking increasingly doubtful. The clock is ticking on it - 5/6 weeks to go. How exactly is the plan being developed?
