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fr336

How many people on Boards have a mask and if so are you wearing them for essential trips? And this late in the day where can you get one that is going to be half decent and not from a suspect seller who could have done anything to it?

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GazzaL

MadYaker wrote: »

Are you really this dense? Cases dropped because supermarkets were literally the only thing open. Now almost everything is open.

And supermarkets weren't hotspots for virus transmission because they are large spaces and people had good hygiene and used social distancing. We need to maintain good hygiene standards and social distancing and do this is all settings possible.

fr336

GazzaL wrote: »

So we should forget about good hygiene and social distancing, and just wear masks? I'd rather have good hygiene and use social distancing - they are the reasons why it was safe to go shopping even at the peak of the pandemic.

No, we do them all. I'm seriously questioning the safety of people doing jobs if they can't manage to juggle basic human tasks such as washing their hands, keeping their distancing from strangers in shops, and wearing something over their face to protect them. It's the furthest thing from rocket science I've ever heard, but I've heard every excuse under the sun against masks.

Overheal

GazzaL wrote: »

Supermarkets weren't "flung open", they never closed. Cases dropped because of good hygiene and social distancing, and also because steps were taken to improve conditions in nursing homes. The two things that helped reduce transmission amongst the general public are being lost because of all the people banging on about masks.

You can argue that people should still social distance and wash their hands without campaigning against the wearing of masks, which is all you've done lately in this thread. I haven't seen anyone on this forum campaigning against washing their hands or socially distancing.

MadYaker

I can't understand the resistance to it. Nobody who is against masks will actually explain why either, they just give bs answers based on false info.

GazzaL

fr336 wrote: »

No, we do them all. I'm seriously questioning the safety of people doing jobs if they can't manage to juggle basic human tasks such as washing their hands, keeping their distancing from strangers in shops, and wearing something over their face to protect them. It's the furthest thing from rocket science I've ever heard, but I've heard every excuse under the sun against masks.

People are more likely to infect themselves if they're fidgeting with their masks. Good hygiene and social distancing have made it very safe to go shopping.

fr336

GazzaL wrote: »

People are more likely to infect themselves if they're fidgeting with their masks. Good hygiene and social distancing have made it very safe to go shopping.

I've been wearing masks since March and never once touched my face. I may touch the mask if wearing a new type of mask, but never ever the face. It's not difficult. I then take off the mask at the end of my shift by using the strings at the back of it. Why should I have to do this basic task and others don't? So many excuses.

GazzaL

MadYaker wrote: »

I can't understand the resistance to it. Nobody who is against masks will actually explain why either, they just give bs answers based on false info.

I'm worried about people infecting themselves because there are a large number of people who wear face masks incorrectly e.g. not covering their nose, pulling it down below their chin, touching it, fidgeting with it. I'm worried about people who will experience breathing difficulties while wearing them. Those people would be safer without masks once they and everyone else does the basics and has good hygiene and uses social distancing.

fr336

MadYaker wrote: »

I can't understand the resistance to it. Nobody who is against masks will actually explain why either, they just give bs answers based on false info.

I'd have more respect if someone just said "yeah, I can't be arsed".

GazzaL

fr336 wrote: »

I've been wearing masks since March and never once touched my face. I may touch the mask if wearing a new type of mask, but never ever the face. It's not difficult. I then take off the mask at the end of my shift by using the strings at the back of it. Why should I have to do this basic task and others don't? So many excuses.

That's great that you're comfortable wearing masks and do so safely. But huge numbers of people don't wear them safely and/or are in discomfort wearing them.

fr336

GazzaL wrote: »

I'm worried about people infecting themselves because there are a large number of people who wear face masks incorrectly e.g. not covering their nose, pulling it down below their chin, touching it, fidgeting with it. I'm worried about people who will experience breathing difficulties while wearing them. Those people would be safer without masks once they and everyone else does the basics and has good hygiene and uses social distancing.

Anyone who has breathing difficulties is exempt from wearing one. And it's not even being properly policed so many lazy sods who are perfectly healthy will use this excuse. So yeah.

fr336

GazzaL wrote: »

That's great that you're comfortable wearing masks and do so safely. But huge numbers of people don't wear them safely and/or are in discomfort wearing them.

It's a wonder they manage to get out of bed in the morning.

GazzaL

fr336 wrote: »

It's a wonder they manage to get out of bed in the morning.

That may be so, but even in an article published the other day about the proposed new rules for face masks, two of the three pictures accompanying the article showed numerous people wearing them incorrectly.

tom1ie

GazzaL wrote: »

So we should forget about good hygiene and social distancing, and just wear masks? I'd rather have good hygiene and use social distancing - they are the reasons why it was safe to go shopping even at the peak of the pandemic.

Wtf are you on about trolly mctroll?
It’s hand hygiene+SD+ masks.

tom1ie

GazzaL wrote: »

That's great that you're comfortable wearing masks and do so safely. But huge numbers of people don't wear them safely and/or are in discomfort wearing them.

Source?

Overheal

GazzaL wrote: »

People are more likely to infect themselves if they're fidgeting with their masks. Good hygiene and social distancing have made it very safe to go shopping.

This is another bad faith/ignorant comment.

You've heard "My mask protects you, your mask protects me."

Touching your mask isn't an infection of you, your mask is to capture your breath, especially your exhaled moisture, so it does not travel into the lungs of others, or land on their mucous membranes.

Overheal

GazzaL wrote: »

That's great that you're comfortable wearing masks and do so safely. But huge numbers of people don't wear them safely and/or are in discomfort wearing them.

Those delicate snowflakes... it must be so unbearable to wear a mask for half an hour in the shop

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-health-care-bruised-faces-masks-ppe-hospitals-doctors-nurses-italy-new-york/

fr336

tom1ie wrote: »

Wtf are you on about trolly mctroll?
It’s hand hygiene+SD+ masks.

I don't think he's trolling, I know the trolls in the "other" thread too well and they're pretty blatant.

GazzaL

Overheal wrote: »

Those delicate snowflakes... it must be so unbearable to wear a mask for half an hour in the shop

I have huge respect for all front line healthcare workers. Not everyone could do the job that they do. It doesn't take away from my point though.

tom1ie

fr336 wrote: »

I don't think he's trolling, I know the trolls in the "other" thread too well and they're pretty blatant.

I hope for his sake he is!

GazzaL

Overheal wrote: »

This is another bad faith/ignorant comment.

You've heard "My mask protects you, your mask protects me."

Touching your mask isn't an infection of you, your mask is to capture your breath, especially your exhaled moisture, so it does not travel into the lungs of others, or land on their mucous membranes.

If you touch an infected surface, and then proceed to fidget with your mask, there's a good chance of infecting yourself. If you touch an infected surface, and you're not wearing a mask and therefore don't put your hands near your mouth, nose or eyes until after washing your hands, you're at a lower risk.

fr336

tom1ie wrote: »

I hope for his sake he is!

True

xtal191

https://twitter.com/BenatBroderick/status/1284448539783946244

Overheal

GazzaL wrote: »

I have huge respect for all front line healthcare workers. Not everyone could do the job that they do. It doesn't take away from my point though.

You can say that until the cows come home, but it definitely does.

If my fiance, with POTS and Asthma can wear a mask when its 35 degrees celsius outside and 80% humidity so can virtually any Irish. It's not even 17 C in Ireland today, at the height of summer, get a hold of yourselves.

fr336

GazzaL wrote: »

If you touch an infected surface, and then proceed to fidget with your mask, there's a good chance of infecting yourself. If you touch an infected surface, and you're not wearing a mask and therefore don't put your hands near your mouth, nose or eyes until after washing your hands, you're at a lower risk.

You don't need to touch your face if you fidget with your mask. It's not difficult!

Overheal

GazzaL wrote: »

If you touch an infected surface, and then proceed to fidget with your mask, there's a good chance of infecting yourself. If you touch an infected surface, and you're not wearing a mask and therefore don't put your hands near your mouth, nose or eyes until after washing your hands, you're at a lower risk.

"For some health experts, this propensity to self-touch is perhaps where face masks offer a useful form of protection. While medical masks don’t necessarily stop the virus completely, they make it harder to touch the nose and mouth.

"Wearing a mask can reduce the propensity for people to touch their faces, which is a major source of infection without proper hand hygiene," says Stephen Griffin a virologist at the University of Leeds, UK."

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200317-how-to-stop-touching-your-face

GazzaL

fr336 wrote: »

You don't need to touch your face if you fidget with your mask. It's not difficult!

People do though. That's the point. We need to mitigate risk. We need to maintain good hygiene standards and social distancing.

Overheal

GazzaL wrote: »

Some people do though. That's the point. We need to mitigate risk. We need to maintain good hygiene standards and social distancing and wear masks.

FYP

fr336

GazzaL wrote: »

People do though. That's the point. We need to mitigate risk. We need to maintain good hygiene standards and social distancing.

We can do all three. And to be honest if we're not trusting some people to do basic things, having them wear a mask protects the rest of us from them if they're not social distancing. Which a lot of people don't.

xhomelezz

Think you are wasting your breath guys. He is obviously living in his own universe, so we might just leave him there:D

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