iamwhoiam wrote: » How many parents are at home and not working and could give that time to a child ? Or indeed to two or three children? Many parents are working full time either away from or at home . Parents have babies to mind or children with special needs to care Education would be totally unbalanced and some having time to educate at home and many others not being able to at all
NelRom wrote: » Were both working full time at home so obviously a safe return is the first hope. These suggestions are in the event it doesn't happen- I'd like my kids taught for as long as possible each day and leave something like homework and revision that I can oversee for a small part of the day. Parents with babies - that is tough going and I don't have the answer but surely any other child being taught would help. I have a child with SN, and would expect classes and check ins or calls for that too. Education is already unbalanced unfortunately, that is just a sad reality of life.
Smacruairi wrote: » Taught for as long as possible. So how long is that ideally with remote tech and methods as they are?
arctictree wrote: » There is talk in my locality of some parents implementing a rota where they teach a specific class each day of the week in a rented building (GAA or local hall or something). I suppose life moves on ...
iamwhoiam wrote: » My own daughter tried her very best , both working full time from home , one child in senior infants and a young colicky baby . By early June I saw the stress mounting and they were both worn out My advice at that stage was to let it go , do reading at bedtime and Maths in daily life , ( counting trees etc ) So many were under horrendous pressure trying their very best and not managing full time work and being a parent and a teacher all at once
Yosef Stocky Backspace wrote: » Do you want your child taught properly when in class? If so are you happy for all their academic performance and behaviours and eccentricities to be live streamed into other people's homes, and possibly recorded? Like when the teacher asks for answers or contributions to something and your child says something odd, or tells an embarrassing story about your family that they think is relevant to the context. And it's no longer something forgotten about in a few minutes, or just heard by peers, but is now viewed by other adults and siblings and could be recorded. The only way not to expose all these vulnerable moments to all sorts is to have lessons like a lecture, which is not desirable use of precious classroom time imo.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » As much as it is trying to take the initiative that won't be allowed. Not with child protection laws, insurance etc there are standards and procedures in place for a reason.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » We both working parents here and it's been really difficult. I don't think I'd be able to continue the juggling act for much longer, feeling burnt out to be honest and I haven't been able to give any aspect of home/work/school 100% of the full attention they deserve. I'm probably not alone in feeling guilty and overwhelmed.
jrosen wrote: » As I said all kids stayed on mute, teamed with short sessions on line. Parents seemed of the opinion it delivered. Look its worth exploring like other suggestions because right now it they dont seem to have much else.
Yosef Stocky Backspace wrote: » All kids on mute is for teaching a group fully online. If some are in the classroom then you can't mute them if you are delivering a proper meaningful lesson to them, which is live streamed to part of the class at home. But what you describe has been done by many teachers. It has not worked for many students. And many parents have complained about various aspects of this set up, from inadequate tech to access live lessons at a certain time, to not being happy with students watching content without interaction.
NelRom wrote: » Even the challenges of this would be better than the 'set work/ correct work' setup I had.
NelRom wrote: » One would wonder if we are realistically heading toward universal social income if primary schools don't go back and parents are expected to become educators past the initial basics mentioned in the constitution. I believe secondary schools have been much better about the online teaching?
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Still waiting on the department to step up and give us some practical advice, guidance and guidelines. There should be no need for us or parents to be trying to second guess what will be happening or parents talking about taking groups of kids for lessons.
FC1 wrote: » I completely agree with you. I too had a similar experience. I believe though a plan could be put in place to standardise homeschooling so that every school is the same. I think if it was kept simple with some interaction from teachers it could work. Before the summer hols my children's schools expectations of what we could achieve at home with no interaction ( just 1 email per week) was ridiculous.
Yosef Stocky Backspace wrote: » Yes, it might be for you. Other parents specifically requested what you are complaining about. Opinions on what worked vary greatly.
wirelessdude01 wrote: » Still waiting on the department. I heard of a school that gave work at 9am, midday and 3pm. Every piece was expected.to be done and uploaded to the teacher. Emails and then phone calls were received it that didn't occur. Total overload but dictated by the principal so the teachers had to comply even though they mostly didn't agree with it.
Sanjuro wrote: » You're absolutely not alone. We've a 6 year old and a 4 year old, and it's been absolutely draining. Both my wife and I have full time jobs that aren't going anywhere and while the teaching of our daughter is minimal, the childcare is another full time job on top of our own ones. It's completely unsustainable and causing us untold stress.
NelRom wrote: » But those parents who didn't want to engage in the taught/ streamed element could still do the set work/ correct work part- so would still get what they want. However, most parents who want actual teaching streamed etc. did not get that.
Yosef Stocky Backspace wrote: » But they still complained. And looked for changes. As for streaming live lessons, it's not effective in my experience and many who thought that's what they wanted realised it was actually not. I taught a small group of Leaving Certs during lockdown because they had no teacher. Their parents wanted live lessons. Then they wanted recorded content instead, or as well in some cases. Then they wanted both. Then they wanted just work set and corrected. Then they complained when I did all of that because it wasn't fair that the others were moving on with stuff in live lessons when their child hadn't had time yet to watch the recorded content. And it wasn't fair that others were moving on with recorded content when their child could only look at questions. So basically they all wanted different things and essentially private grinds. Not to mention that what their children wanted was not what they wanted. It was a full time job for 8 students. And I would definitely never agree to it again during to unreasonable expectations.
