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How will schools be able to go back in September?

shoppergal

Just wondering if anyone can give any insight into how schools could safely re-open in September?

Everyone I'm talking to is saying they won't be back until September but in my head I'm wondering how they'll re-open even in September? The virus will still be there with a vaccine still months away at that stage.

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jrosen

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I don’t think the uniform thing is silly at all . No one has enough uniforms to change and wash every day . Most kids would be happy to change clothes I imagine . Parents of younger kids could dress them in clean clothes every day but they could not put them in clean uniform every day
My granddaughter wears a tracksuit which is heavy and impossible to get dry overnight or even in a few days

If the point of it is to ensure fresh clothes every day it is. Kids will wear the same coat, the same shoes, the same hats and gloves come winter. I would have thought it defeats the same purpose.
But non uniform is just another pressure to put on parents and kids.

[Deleted User]

How will parents be expected to have clean clothes every day. The washing would be extreme

iamwhoiam

jrosen wrote: »

The uniform thing is silly I think. Kids could come in wearing the same non uniform clothes anyway. I would imagine it would make more sense to stop all crested items, which tend to be more expensive anyway and just go for generic ones.

Yes travel will be refunded. Refunds for end of last school term are being current rolled out.

I don’t think the uniform thing is silly at all . No one has enough uniforms to change and wash every day . Most kids would be happy to change clothes I imagine . Parents of younger kids could dress them in clean clothes every day but they could not put them in clean uniform every day
My granddaughter wears a tracksuit which is heavy and impossible to get dry overnight or even in a few days

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s1ippy wrote: »

Wearing masks is being made mandatory in retail environments, now surely DoE will have no choice but to provide PPE and insist it is worn by school staff and students.

They can't even provide toilet paper and hot water.

With the restrictions being put back in place on meeting people at home and public places I can't see schools resuming.

khalessi

Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: »

Meanwhile summer camps are running and sports are back so it's some consolation for the kids.

With restrictions, I am coid supervisor in GAA and the chldren have to have a health questionnaire updated before each training session and there are other restrictions in place for both parents and children. Some summer camps could not take place due to restrictions in place.

jrosen

The uniform thing is silly I think. Kids could come in wearing the same non uniform clothes anyway. I would imagine it would make more sense to stop all crested items, which tend to be more expensive anyway and just go for generic ones.

Yes travel will be refunded. Refunds for end of last school term are being current rolled out.

ldy4mxonucwsq6

timmy_mallet wrote: »

If even.

Meanwhile the majority of the rest of Europe has managed to be back at school 2 months already.

This is why schools should have been ready to go at the first sign of things returning to normal and at least got a couple of months in before restrictions being reintroduced.

Schools reopening in September is looking less and less likely by the day.

I have got school books and paid the contributions (maybe I shouldn't have?) but am holding off buying any uniforms until there's a clearer plan.

Not wasting anymore money if its not going to be necessary.

I honestly think there will be tears here if there's no plan soon (probably mine). The lack of anything solid is very unsettling.

Meanwhile summer camps are running and sports are back so it's some consolation for the kids.

Bananaleaf

To the parents mentioning buying uniforms, I have heard rumours (and it has also been mentioned on this thread by someone) that students wont be wearing uniforms so that they can wear fresh/clean clothes every day and parents not under pressure to keep washing the uniform.

Also, on the travel, I'd imagine you would have to be refunded if you pay in full and there isn't a full return.

Its awkward that we know nothing and the closer it gets to return time, the more of these kinds of things will pop up.

I saw a woman buying copies and pens in lidl the other week and I could see it in her face, she was thinking 'I mean, are they even going to be using this?'

CruelSummer

Schools in the EU were already open prior to the summer break and no adverse rise in cases due to that, we have to open. The ramifications of denying our younger generation Education is enormous. They do not get adversely affected by the virus and need to be among their peers - not isolated in their homes indefinitely.
If the government won’t give funding for PPE and other vital measures needed to allow schools to reopen, I say we organise protests in whatever form possible, online/ socially distanced/ what ever works - in conjunction with parents and students that demand our schools be given funding for vital sanitary, health & safety and other Covid procedures. It goes without saying vulnerable or at risk teachers should be given special leave at this time to protect themselves.

Bananaleaf

Great news that PPE will now be mandatory in shops. This indeed is great for schools as one would imagine we will be provided with some form of PPE.

Nice to see the same characters are about, still asking questions that have been answered many times already. Honestly, I think some people must actually find reading painful

timmy_mallet

ChelseaRentBoy wrote: »

Id say its odds on they won't be back until 2021.

If even.

Meanwhile the majority of the rest of Europe has managed to be back at school 2 months already.

morebabies

Purple Mountain wrote: »

I might just pay the first installation.
It's a big chunk to be told no school in September.

I'm in the same predicament - plus we might have to wait until next summer for the refund if schools don't open fully.

ChelseaRentBoy

Icantthinkof1 wrote: »

I’ve no intention of buying any uniforms until I know for definite that my children will be returning to school. I’m starting to seriously doubt that they will.

Id say its odds on they won't be back until 2021.

jrosen

Purple Mountain wrote: »

I might just pay the first installation.
It's a big chunk to be told no school in September.

Sorry I should have said, I only paid half too.

wirelessdude01

arctictree wrote: »

What I don't understand is why there is such an issue around funding for PPE. Surely it would only cost a few million. The Government approved 3,000 million in extra borrowing for the covid payment at the stroke of a pen.

Because it is for education. They consider money invested in it a total waste. Ypu already see the attitude of some on here with their comments along the lines of 'suck it up' and 'stepping up'.

Purple Mountain

jrosen wrote: »

I paid our bus today for both kids. We rely on the bus to get them to and from school. We cant bring them as we are both going the opposite way to work. I was afraid we would loose the seat. But im sitting tight and not paying a penny to anything else.

I might just pay the first installation.
It's a big chunk to be told no school in September.

jrosen

Purple Mountain wrote: »

I'm a mother and I'm torn about paying the bus fee that's now due at the end of the month and buying a whole new uniform for the year.

I paid our bus today for both kids. We rely on the bus to get them to and from school. We cant bring them as we are both going the opposite way to work. I was afraid we would loose the seat. But im sitting tight and not paying a penny to anything else.

arctictree

What I don't understand is why there is such an issue around funding for PPE. Surely it would only cost a few million. The Government approved 3,000 million in extra borrowing for the covid payment at the stroke of a pen.

Sammy2012

Icantthinkof1 wrote: »

I too am living in hope. My poor children were losing brain cells daily while I was ‘teaching’ them; they’ll never survive another 9months of me being teacher!

I am a teacher and I dont think I gave 100% to my own kids or the kids in my class. The thoughts of returning to that are sickening. Schools need to open. They need to figure out how it will work. And get on with it.

KerryConnor

I'm a primary teacher and assuming primary will be back full time . Hope to god they will I found the online very stressful and my own kids were very unmotivated with their own work. Partly because I was so preoccupied with my own job so was unable to focus on them.
I'm mentally preparing for me and my youngest (who is in primary) to be back in full time and my older lads (who are in secondary) to be part time.
They ll be letting themselves into an empty house, we ll just have to hide the PlayStation and have a little check in each evening with them, try and get them into some sort of routine.

Icantthinkof1 wrote: »

I too am living in hope! My poor children were losing brain cells daily while I was ‘teaching’ them!

Icantthinkof1

Sammy2012 wrote: »

I agree with you but I'm still living in hope schools will reopen then. I keep saying it but I want to go back to work. This online stuff just doesnt work for me.

I too am living in hope. My poor children were losing brain cells daily while I was ‘teaching’ them; they’ll never survive another 9months of me being teacher!

Sammy2012

Icantthinkof1 wrote: »

I think he is just paying lip service and already knows that schools won’t reopen as there would have been uproar at the end of August that the Government allowed for pubs to open and not schools- but I really hope I am wrong (I usually am!)

I agree with you but I'm still living in hope schools will reopen then. I keep saying it but I want to go back to work. This online stuff just doesnt work for me.

Icantthinkof1

Sammy2012 wrote: »

Part of the reason not to reopen pubs is so schools can reopen or so said MM during the press conference

I think he is just paying lip service and already knows that schools won’t reopen as there would have been uproar at the end of August that the Government allowed for pubs to open and not schools- but I really hope I am wrong (I usually am!) Christ at this stage who knows; anything could happen; they may even open the pubs and use them as schools

Sammy2012

Part of the reason not to reopen pubs is so schools can reopen or so said MM during the press conference

Icantthinkof1

Purple Mountain wrote: »

I'm a mother and I'm torn about paying the bus fee that's now due at the end of the month and buying a whole new uniform for the year.

I’ve no intention of buying any uniforms until I know for definite that my children will be returning to school. I’m starting to seriously doubt that they will.

is_that_so

Now that Phase 5 has been returned to where it was, will the schools open?

History Queen

blanch152 wrote: »

https://www.education.ie/covid19

Here is the full list of resources provided to schools.

Looks to me like there is plenty of guidance available.

As things change, it gets updated. We still have no decision on Phase 4, so schools can only do a certain amount of planning without it?

Personally, I know of three schools that are very advanced in planning for September.

No provision in most of that for many issues (I appreciate some are unique to second level schools)/subject options/practical subjects/substitute teachers/canteen/lack of hand washing facilities/social areas etc.

wirelessdude01

blanch152 wrote: »

https://www.education.ie/covid19

Here is the full list of resources provided to schools.

Looks to me like there is plenty of guidance available.

As things change, it gets updated. We still have no decision on Phase 4, so schools can only do a certain amount of planning without it?

Personally, I know of three schools that are very advanced in planning for September.

Did you actually look at that? Nothing of any substance or practical reality in there at all.

Purple Mountain

I'm a mother and I'm torn about paying the bus fee that's now due at the end of the month and buying a whole new uniform for the year.

History Queen

blanch152 wrote: »

https://www.education.ie/covid19

Here is the full list of resources provided to schools.

Looks to me like there is plenty of guidance available.

As things change, it gets updated. We still have no decision on Phase 4, so schools can only do a certain amount of planning without it?

Personally, I know of three schools that are very advanced in planning for September.