Happyilylost wrote: » Where did I ask for anyone to resign. I'm barely in this thread. It's your comment I noticed. Simple question what "laws" were broken for the PSNI to hand out 100s of fines for breach of regulations in relation to gatherings across NI during the covid19 outbreak? Whatever "laws" they deemed broken during these gatherings is it not possible they deem them broken at this funeral? I don't care about the context of the event as that's not how rules work. You break them you break them. Whether it be a house party piss up of 50 young lads or a funeral of 100s.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Mort thinks a SF transgression is worse than any other similar transgression.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Members of SF I presume...who do you think they were? A white shirt and tie is a 'uniform' now?
SafeSurfer wrote: » Being no longer “operational” is not the same as being “wound up”. A company can be no longer operational but until it is wound up it continues to exist.
Truthvader wrote: » I said "pretendy" uniform. Kind of budget Stormtrooper. And thanks again for confirming the Sinn Fein/IRA inextricable link and identity
maccored wrote: » my god - what kind of debating is that? no longer OPERATIONAL means THEY NO LONGER DO ANYTHING regardless if the name is still there or not. A name is a bunch of letters and pretty useless if the body it represents is no longer operational Theres time I wonder how some people can figure out how to open a door.
joeguevara wrote: » You still haven't shown me a law. You showed me maximum PSNI powers but you cant have powers without a law. You know those things published by Legislators. With an offence, specified. Is there one of those. I note that you use law and rule interchangeably. That's not how this works.
maccored wrote: » you were talking rubbish. according to you anyone wearing a white shirt and tie are in the ira.
Happyilylost wrote: » https://www.thejournal.ie/over-100-coronavirus-related-fines-issued-in-northern-ireland-5073378-Apr2020/ I asked a simple question in my previous post. I'll quote it again.Simple question what "laws" were broken for the PSNI to hand out 100s of fines for breach of regulations in relation to gatherings across NI during the covid19 outbreak? Or are you of the opinion what the PSNI have been doing is illegal?
joeguevara wrote: » I have no idea what the PSNI are doing because you have not been able to show me the Legislation that has been broken in a published documents. I have no idea what fines have been given. Could have been for anything. Just admit that you don't know what law has been broken and stop quoting newpaper articles that mean nothing.
christy c wrote: » In the eyes of the law it was, hence the harsher penalty.
Happyilylost wrote: » https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-52106843 I'll keep quoting till the penny drops.
FrancieBrady wrote: » And if they brought out another crowd for the interring of the ashes ( I assume they are going in the Republican plot) the usual crew would be out complaining. Death and funerals have always been used for orations by political party's. Aren't they still using the grave of WOlfe Tone for political oration.
joeguevara wrote: » I have no idea what the PSNI are doing because you have not been able to show me the Legislation that has been broken in a published documents. I have no idea what fines have been given. Could have been for anything. Just admit that you don't know what law has been broken and stop quoting newpaper articles that mean nothing. Just so there is no doubt, I have never seen a lawyer in court read out a newspaper article for proof that a land and an offence exists. Have you?
Bonniedog wrote: » Wolfe Tone is actually there
After Requiem Mass, Mr Storey's remains were taken to Milltown Cemetery where speeches were made by senior republican figures including former Sinn Féin leader Gerry Adams. His body was then taken to Roselawn Cemetery in east Belfast, where it was cremated at about 15:30.
Mortelaro wrote: » Sf's Buckleys offence was a tad worse though 3 year driving ban and 3 times over the limit, also on a provisional licence Its very obvious now why SF didn't push the Cowen thing the other day I presume an offence whilst holding office would be a resigning matter Its a pity we can't have squeaky clean mp's but I suppose no country has The right people rarely run for office, they're too busy getting paid properly/enjoying security of tenure for their skills elsewhere
joeguevara wrote: » The penny has dropped. You have no clue. You cannot show me a law. Im off to court with a copy of the Kerryman. Hope the Judge lets me use it as a substitute for the Criminal Justice Act 2010.
FrancieBrady wrote: » But is one worse than the other in your view? Sounds a bit Danny Healy Rae to me to be dancing on a pin here. It's a right or wrong issue for me.
Happyilylost wrote: » I've no idea why you've moved onto "newspapers won't hold up in court" I'm simply providing verified unbiased information that states a) you cannot have an outdoor gathering of over 30 people and if you do it can be punished by the PSNI in Northern Ireland. Direct quote from the BBC article. Can I hold a party?In England, the law allows you to meet in a group of up to 30 people outside, or at home. Outside means any public place - including beaches, parks, streets and the countryside. So, if you want to organise a picnic or garden party you can now invite 29 guests. If you go above that number, the police can turn up and force people to leave. They could issue you with a penalty ticket. These start at £100 (or £50 if paid within 14 days), rising to £3,200 for six or more offences. In exceptional cases, the Crown Prosecution Service could take someone to court.
SafeSurfer wrote: » Is being caught speeding at 3 times the speed limit worse than being caught just above the speed limit? Doing 150km in a 50 zone is no worse than doing 55? Is that your line of argument?
christy c wrote: » It seems the handwaving away of Buckleys offence is taking the form of it being old news, and whatabout Barry Cowen. As one of the SF fans say, one doesn't cancel the other.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Knowingly being over the limit in anything is the line with me particularly with a drug. If you are prepared to drive over the limit, then 'how far over' conversations are moot. If you think there are degrees that are ok...get behind the Healy Raes.
joeguevara wrote: » England, yeah? Fair play.
SafeSurfer wrote: » You are no legal expert are you Francie. Not surprising given your defence of the indefensible on here. Once a line is crossed as you say, everything is fair game. That’s why once shots are fired to defend one’s community blowing up children buying shoes is equivalent as the “line” has already been crossed.
McMurphy wrote: » Both Buckley and Cowen were wrong, you will note it was someone far from being a "SF fan" that got the "one is worse than the other" ball rolling. Keep up.
