addaword wrote: » Our children are mingling with each other in summer camps and everywhere else, yet our schools will remain closed for five and a half months and will be the last to re-open in Europe. Our children deserve better from the education system, given its massive budget.
addaword wrote: » Our children are mingling with each other in summer camps and everywhere else, yet our schools will remain closed for five and a half months and will be the last to re-open in Europe.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Scotland planning on reopening schools without social distancing. Teachers will still social distance amongst themselves and there will be face coverings and routine testing of teachers. Children here have been mixing for weeks now and the government and Dept of education are still wringing their hands. Despite HSE public health experts saying over a month ago that schools in Ireland are not a high-risk setting for the transmission of coronavirus, and reopening classrooms should be considered as an early measure in lifting restrictions. Businesses got their acts together quickly because they had to in order to survive, but it seems the DOE does not have any independent thought or capability to do the same. They want someone else to tell them what to do, there is no pressure on them to do anything because it doesn't impact their bottom line nor is anyone giving them any real motivation to do something about it.
byhookorbycrook wrote: » Was there an option to submit work completed? If you are unhappy with the school’s engagement, you can take it up with the DES.
mcsean2163 wrote: » Yes, I scanned in the homework and sent it in. I should have done it more but our printer is not good and I am miserable at this step too. The teacher said well done and not to worry about submitting. In fairness, it was good in that sense as at least I can say stuff about the teacher to encourage our child. So let me revise, a weekly blog, email that says great but not to worry if homework not submitted and two zoom classes. Do people here regard that as hard work and good student engagement? Again, I really like the teacher and think she's great with children. Maybe technology is not the teachers thing.
pwurple wrote: » How does someone go about taking it up with the DES? And what would the outcome even be? Hi, here's the last few months back? It's too many cases to even begin to investigate, and even if they did, would have to prioritise special needs for example. We were not permitted to have the books at home (the school had them all destroyed. ). One teacher disappeared completely, never heard from her after march lockdown began (3rd class). The principal said she couldn't force her to engage as her place of work was closed. The other teacher was super. Daily class calls, gave them projects to be working on. From family members experience in other countries, the segregated classes are awful. The children kept in those 2m apart zones are crying every night, miserable and confused. It's unnatural and I hope they don't attempt it here. There's so little of this virus left it should hopefully be a non event in September.
downthemiddle wrote: » From the realms of you couldn't make it up. At 16.25 today the inspectorate published a document called Guidance on Continuity of Schooling. Exciting times with what must surely be a roadmap for September. Do not get your hopes up. This is the Department of Education after all. To quote from the document " It serves to further support schools as they continue to provide for their pupils for the remainder of the school year while pupils learn from home." I'm sure this will prove to be invaluable over the next week!!! For those of you happy to blame teachers for schools being closed perhaps this insight will help you understand the sheer level of ineptitude that emanates from the Department.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Was that not released in April or is it a new version?
wirelessdude01 wrote: » So a school destroyed books and a principal said that a teacher didn't have to work because the school building wasn't available? Forgive me for not believing that story as it seems very far-fetched!!
byhookorbycrook wrote: » And what about children with additional needs or underlying health issues? Imagine all the strange things they will have to get used to.
thomasdylan wrote: » Taking blood, first dose antibiotics and putting in cannulas isn't just a doctors job. Nurses have been paid to do those jobs as part of the transfer of tasks. Ireland was unusual in that the burden of those jobs used to fall on doctors.
bettyoleary wrote: » No it wasnt. Link please?
bettyoleary wrote: » No it never was. The worst thing they did was make a nurses require a university degree. They are obviously highly educated and able to do many jobs that were only Drs jobs. What they forgot was if you expect nurses to do this, you pay them appropriately. So nurses should eitherf be caring people on low wages. OR highly educated and capable people. If they are the second. You pay them as such or they wont stay in Ireland. Why should they???? And so you see this. Nurses wont stay in Ireland. And in relation to Corona, they came back to work to help Ireland, wernt needed and hadnt paid tax in Ireland so were basically unemployed and stuck as they were not able to avail of covid or any benefit. Thats the reality of it. If they are needed in second wave you will be lucky if they help. Hence look after our teachers.
bettyoleary wrote: » No it never was. The worst thing they did was make a nurses require a university degree. They are obviously highly educated and able to do many jobs that were only Drs jobs. What they forgot was if you expect nurses to do this, you pay them appropriately. So nurses should eitherf be caring people on low wages. OR highly educated and capable people. If they are the second. You pay them as such or they wont stay in Ireland. Why should they???? And so you see this. Nurses wont stay in Ireland.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Nurses (and other essential workers) were also let down by the massive inadequate gap in childcare during all of this. They were completely abandoned in this aspect even though they were the ones taking the biggest risk during the pandemic. Even in the UK they made sure that healthcare staff still had childcare and schools were open to their children.
Treppen wrote: » It's funny the way in people are quick to go on a rant about primary and secondary teachers not providing childcare.... But when it's creches it's the government who are to blame!
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Joe Mchugh saying he doesn't see significant PPE requirements being needed for schools but ongoing engagement happening daily to draft up the necessary guidelines for schools. He has also confirmed that additional resources will be provided to schools to enable enhanced cleaning/hand sanitisers etc. So once the social distancing is dropped then it's will be more or less extra cleaning, good hygeine, and minimal PPE for teachers (and maybe vulnerable pupils). Along with enhanced sick policies (maybe temperature checks too) and schools taking measures locally to eliminate large assemblies of students, minimise contact where unnecessary in common areas corridors/yards etc I don't think there will be much else to make up the guidelines.
bettyoleary wrote: » Are you a revisionist historian. That would be great to teach your kids. Teach them how we are exactly the same we arnt victims
bettyoleary wrote: » Are you a revisionist historian. That would be great to teach your kids. Teach them how we wernt victims
khalessi wrote: » Well so far we will be working in bubbles. Each class is its own bubble and the teachers stay at their own level. Staffroom might remain closed for the moment. Staff meeting done via zoom no large gatherings. In the yard the children stick to their own bubble and demarcated area on yard. The only one to move between bubbles will be SET who will be in multiple bubbles. SET groups cant be mixed each group from their own bubble. Gonna be interesting times. In another school they are placing desks at the back with perspex surround should vunerable children wish to come to school wearing masks.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » I actually have no clue what you mean
iamwhoiam wrote: » Thanks for the information . Can I ask what teachers stay at their own level means please ?
khalessi wrote: » There is more than one class at each class level, so 2 or more 5th classes for example. So the teachers can interact with other teachers at that level. The only teacher to move between levels is Support. Along with that will be hygiene and extra cleaning and other measures we see fit.
