Seanergy wrote: » Mask cost is not the biggest issue, go spin elsewhere
odyssey06 wrote: » Not the biggest issue but could be a a deterring factor for people on fixed state incomes. Maybe a pack should be included per month for medical card holders with their registered prescriptions.
granturismo wrote: » I really doubt that 60degC degrades cotton or linen face coverings to that extent - 100% intact cotton and linen wont stop a viral particle, a washed cloth will have similar efficacy.
Seanergy wrote: » The first day the Minsiter for Health actually dons a face covering and the term refusing to wear is directed at the general public. Hyper skewing of figures starting to happen, hmmm? they must have set a magic target % in mind that will result in a win for operation save face covering. Meanwhile first announcemnt of Mandatory. Face coverings will be mandatory for students and staff involved in certain teaching and learning activities in institutes of technology in the autumn. Someone just said to me why can't Dublin Bus just add facecovering to their hygiene rules along with no shoes no shirt no board rules?
Jim_Hodge wrote: » Grand job. No idea what it has to do with my post challenging the washing advice from a health professional and the mechanics of a wash breaking down micro fibre plastics that shouldn't be in the mask in the first place.
[Deleted User] wrote: » I wore a mask today. Maybe it is the wrong fit because it was very uncomfortable. Also my glasses kept fogging up so if course I then automatically went to pull it down a bit. I washed my glasses in soapy water beforehand hoping it would prevent the fog. It didn't. Does anyone have any ideas for a comfortable mask wearing experience?
ExMachina1000 wrote: » Requires legislation. Wont be happening. Forget about it
odyssey06 wrote: » Was it the blue surgical mask type? Inside the top layer of the mask there is a metal strip. Pinching the metal strip to form it around the bridge of your nose helps with the fogging up.
Jim_Hodge wrote: » Tried that myself and still awful problems with misting up regardless of the mask design I've used.
MipMap wrote: » You are not trying to stop a virus particle. You are trying to stop water droplets that can contain up to half a million virus particles. Also washing you hand with soap and water for 20 seconds is advised and no one mentions temperature. They say the soap breaks down the protein shell on the virus. This has to apply to a mask as well. Thirdly the idea that your mask has a high chance of being infected when you take it off is nonsense and it has no more likelihood to be infected that your cap or your tee-shirt or anything else that you might touch your face with when you remove it. Their advise is drawn from the experience of hospital settings where staff have to take off their PPE very carefully because the possibility of it being infected is much higher given they have been in close contact for several hours with known confiirmed cases. This applies to gowns gloves etc, not just their masks. I don't propose you should not be careful taking off your mask because it is not hard to do but becoming excessively paranoid about it is unhelpful cos it can lead to people deciding there is additional danger in wearing one. This idea was fuelled by the CMO for two months banging on about this when he was in "trash the masks mode".
MipMap wrote: » I wasn't responding to your post. I was responding to granturismo I have read your post and fully agree with it. My point is that the focus now is on how to deal with these dreadful virus riddled masks rather than accentuate the positives of wearing them. If people think they have to run a full wash every time they take their masks off then is will discourage their use. Sensible advise would be to have several and change them daily leaving the used one in the wash basket.
Seanergy wrote: » I am trying. It's becoming more obvious that GOV are now opting for a % rather than having to take the mandatory route with face coverings. How can GOV achieve mandatory face coverings anyway when there is such a high % of the nation suffering with autism. Let's hazard a guess the GOV have a target % of about 64-68% for national face coverings. The recent claim by GOV that roughly 33% are masked was simply a toe dipping exercise. If it passes, which it looks like it will, GOV proceed with plan fudge face coverings numbers(FFCN). If it doesn't they will excuse numbers by computer error etc. Currently uptake is at 10-15% with GOV claiming 33%. If uptake were to increase towards 30-44%, GOV could fudge numbers the rest of the way to achieve the target 64-68% to save face and keep public pressure at bay whilst not having to mandate. The new face covering campaign is offically over. Zero education on the reason why we should all be wearing face coverings in unison. My hunch all along was it's not an image Ireland wanted to portray globally. But Leo stay firm and Harris just went against my hunch by stropping around the lowerdeck of a Dublin bus like nervous virgin pole dancers donning face coverings and that's why I am going to suggest operation FFCN has begun. The wheels on the bus go round and round.
is_that_so wrote: » . Anecdotally I've heard that Dublin traffic is as bad as the rest of the year and well above the summer flows. That is only likely to get worse in the next phase.
ednwireland wrote: » people driving rather than trying to use public transport was always going to do this as people went back to work
is_that_so wrote: » Sure, why take the risk with a bus?
Boggles wrote: » Won't be as much of an option come the autumn / winter.
Deleted User wrote: » It wasn't. It's a homemade one. I've attached a pic.
is_that_so wrote: » Some of the reports from retail and that 20% limit on public transport suggests that not too many are taking advantage of their new found freedom. Anecdotally I've heard that Dublin traffic is as bad as the rest of the year and well above the summer flows. That is only likely to get worse in the next phase. I'd say your hunch is more driven by a need to insult anyone who won't do what you want them to. That's fine for what it is and and evidence of a sense of frustration but it really doesn't make any kind of case for persuading people to change their behaviour.
Seanergy wrote: » Does it have a nose strip? if not inserting one or glueing one should help considerably. Also make sure your glasses are sitting out well over the edge of the mask. Normally those two things along with soaped glasses work. Obviously we all have diferent sized faces and some masks are better than others for not dissapating heat out of the top nose bridge area. I'm currently looking at putting beads of silicon along the top edge's as a seal for reusable masks.
Seanergy wrote: » That isn't so, hold onto your insulting beliefs about my behaviour and my wants. My frustration was born out of the incompetence of GOV to address a respiratory disease straight in the face many months ago. GOV threw the first insults at my feet from the get go when they reshaped droplet education into cough etiquette for the general public for their own convenience(cheaper and easier solution at the time). Do you view operation FFCN as a kind of case for persuading people to change their behaviour by making it appear trending/popluar? Is that going to be the crux of the new drive by GOV to increase uptake numbers? Zero education. I am not trying to persuade people to change their behaviour based on the emotion of what's fashionable/trending. I will unapologetically lay things out and if people take them up, good for them, they did it, not me. Brainwashing is not my game, yes, keep an open mind, make decision's on and about your beliefs by yourself, stay flexible and keep learning.
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