wirelessdude01 wrote: » As I said earlier in the thread I've no skin in this game as I'm primary. My understanding through my dad who knows what happened is that the ASTI asked them to clarify things but that in the meantime someone leaked details to the media(worse than the Mayo GAA County Board for leaks). McHugh then had to rush release and never told the two unions before he did. TUI wrongly assumed that the issues that both unions had were resolved and said fine with us but the ASTI got the doc and looked for what they had requested. Didn't find it and then released their statement as they already had their legal advice. Bit of a lack of communication caused the whole thing because of some idiot who couldn't wait to feed their media buddy.
mirrorwall14 wrote: » Good lord. They are like a ****ing sieve in there
sideswipe wrote: » It is great news that all has been sorted. There is a stink of attention seeking off the unions actions though. They could easily have said they 'agree in principal but need some further clarification', instead they publicly declare that members should not engage with the LC grading system as is. The ASTI is like a cult, the die hards will be along shortly to defend it to the death no doubt.
Treppen wrote: » All that media hysteria and Union bashing going to waste. How sad
wirelessdude01 wrote: » All GAA and LGFA clubs instructed not to use it either at the start of this year. Should never be used in a school setting ever.
lulublue22 wrote: » Ive no idea what it is about whatsapp but we were warned that under no circumstances were we to use it as a means of contacting students due to GDPR. All contact needs to be through teams.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » I have a career thanks very much, I can still care about people without being a teacher. Your doubts are not my concern.
khalessi wrote: » Have you read your posts or the one ones you thank???
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » Oh tell me about it you know nothing about the work I've done in a professional or volunteer capacity so don't pretend otherwise. The opposite to what you assume is the case so don't be so quick to jump to completely unfounded conclusions.
JP100 wrote: » We all have a career but there's some people who have never ever worked to help young people in any shape or form whether it be teaching, sports clubs, youth centres, etc who then regularly criticise and run down the very people who do. The latter also done from a position whereby those criticising actually have a lack of concrete knowledge in the actual practicalities and realities of working in such areas and with young people.
Yosef Stocky Backspace wrote: » No boo boo. ASTI have clearly stated that the government went ahead and published knowing they would not accept the indemnity, as a means of trying to bully them. The government had no concern for the students here.
downthemiddle wrote: » A reasonable and balanced submission by the IPPN. There is a very clear outline here of what is required. 1. Clear guidance in relation to all of the issues, challenges and concerns outlined below needs to be provided to all schools as soon as possible. Ideally it would be available online, so that the most up-to-date information is available when it is needed, and that it reflects current best practice. The most critical guidance relates to the protection of all members of the school community and the procedures and resources needed to ensure same. 2. Additional funding must be provided to schools up front to enable them to implement the guidelines in full. In addition, the centralised procurement and distribution to all schools of appropriate and sufficient PPE equipment and materials prior to their full reopening in the Autumn would greatly alleviate schools of a significant burden over the summer months. 3. Support must be given to schools in managing the full reopening of their buildings to staff and pupils - it must be a collaborative, rather than an inspection-based approach 4. Additional leadership and management time to be provided to teaching principals to flexibly meet the needs of the school. Some teaching principals may prefer to have additional support to focus on administration, so they can spend more time in the classroom - flexibility is the key here5. Training of all staff must be provided prior to reopening - so everyone has the same information at the same time. Additional training of caretaking and cleaning staff is also required 6. No school should lose a staff member owing to COVID-19 e.g. parental decision to keep children at home/defer their child's start in junior infants 7. A checklist for schools - incorporating key short-term, medium-term and long-term actions - would be very helpful 8. A 'General Contract' to be provided centrally for all parents for the new school year to accept the new terms and conditions that balance the safety of the school community with their child's right to an education 9. No new initiatives can be introduced in primary schools in the 2020/21 school year - to respect school staff who must prioritise getting their schools up and running in very changed circumstances - this will be sufficiently challenging for the next school year 10. Inspections should be paused until at least January 2021. The role of inspectors should be temporarily changed to support schools to get back up and running and to restore normality.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » It looks like it was sorted pretty fast and easily in the end, probably unnecessary that it even made it into the media in the first place. Looks like there might have been a boo boo in it being published before all the issues were ironed out. It's been a bit of a rollercoaster for LC students so hopefully it's all done and dusted and they can get on with it.
Treppen wrote: » Are all participants numbers hidden from other participants?
Wanderer19 wrote: » For that age group maybe it was sent to their parents and the parents agreed to it? It's a lot easier, and more cost and time efficient, to send one text to the parents, than 28 notes home in bags. My hubby and daughter both coach footie and they both use what'sapp to stay in touch with the parents (as a group) As a mature student myself, one of our teachers set up a group and checked if we were willing to be in it. They knew some students wouldn't read emails. GDPR went out the window as soon as people were allowed work from home without proper facilities in place. Desperate times calls for desperate measures.
iamwhoiam wrote: » Great news that the ASTI have ironed out the issues they had .
wirelessdude01 wrote: » WhatsApp shouldn't be used by a teacher for any sort of group communication. Huge GDPR issues around it. You can imagine the inspectorate having a field day with this when they get back into schools in the next school year. Hopefully that teacher remembers not to include it in their notes for this period as it could leave them open to repercussions at a later stage.
JP100 wrote: » I doubt you actually care very much about these students' at all really. If you did you might have actually became a teacher yourself. Instead of just coming online here to like posts stating that teachers are lazy and want a day off everyday.
Zahir Bitter Cellist wrote: » I do feel sorry for the like of 6th class, 6th year's and kids due to start primary in September. It's such a little rite of passage that they are missing out on and closes a chapter in their lives It's good to hear that some of the ceremonies are still being held albeit in different circumstances, it definitely helps and I'm sure it's much appreciated.
