sumonz wrote: » Does anyone know where to get masks? I've seen some of the big companies advertising them but I'd prefer local to try and support small businesses if at all possible. Thanks in advance!
weldoninhio wrote: » Jesus wept. Some people just love projecting their fears onto other people. It’s ridiculous. The virus is currently at about R0.4-R0.6 in Ireland according to failed journalism student Harris. Yet people are freaking out about people not wearing masks. Grow up and take a long hard look at yourself. The virus is pretty much gone from the community in Ireland. “ Modelling data published by the Department of Health suggests that at the moment, the spread of the virus in the community is substantially under control.” Denmark has reopened and scientists can’t explain how it hasn’t spiked again. “A second wave of the new coronavirus is unlikely in Denmark as the reproduction rate has stayed below a key threshold since restrictions were eased a month ago, a top health expert said Tuesday. The reproduction rate has fallen from 1.0 at the end of April to 0.7 in the first week in May, according to the state-run infectious disease prevention agency SSI, the nation's top institute of its kind.“
McGiver wrote: » You're wrong. Let's check in back in August. We will see who was right.
weldoninhio wrote: » I’ve read your rebuttal of the facts I’ve stated and backed up. I don’t believe you know what you are talking about.
McGiver wrote: » Some nonsense on R naught from HSE and DoH? The same institutions who totally mismanaged the situation? 1600 dead, 25k cases, 35 billion bill, 20% unemployment. On a f*ucking island with low population density. How do you prevent R0 not going up again? With no masks With reopened economy With no restrictions on international travel With no control, testing and quarantine of incoming people With no fecking plan!
Only tested tourists will travel to Greece this summer. Passengers bound for Greece will be required to take a COVID-19 test up to 72 hours before boarding the aircraft, Greek media reported last weekend, citing a draft plan for tourism due to be presented this week.
Border controls and restrictions are being aligned based on the discussion with Germany, Austria, Slovakia and Poland and also based on the result of talks between Germany and all their other neighbouring countries. Czechia categorises EU countries into three groups by risk of covid transmission - green, orange and red. People entering the country will be processed accordingly. Green - no restrictions, free movement Orange - mandatory test on arrival, quarantine if positive - this will be done at least until end of June Red - entry denied The system will likely be extended to non EU countries as well.
Arrival wrote: » Think I saw some mention the other day that unemployment is >30% now. Still, going from <5% to >20% in a matter of weeks, due to their **** planning and leadership, is abysmal. We really shouldn't be doing so badly from this, so many advantages over the rest of Europe as an island off to the West and here we are
McGiver wrote: » Just to put this into perspective. Just to compare this bizarre Irish government of clowns with the rest of Europe and show how detached from reality and absurd the situation here is. The same goes for masks or any other sensible measure. The below is just a snippet... Greece - 19 times lower deaths per capita than Ireland (surprisingly quick and stringent measures) Czechia - 12 times lower deaths per capita
stephenjmcd wrote: » Just on Greece there is no mandatory tests, there will be free entry. The test aspect was dropped yesterday after EU advice regarding the reopening of the country. Certain nationalities will be allowed in first followed 2 weeks later by the remainder.
“The virus is around us, circulating much more than January or February,” Andrea Ammon, director of the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, was quoted as saying in an interview.
Boggles wrote: » Tourism is one fifth of their economy. It's inevitable for many reasons, but essentially Science will be now 3rd in line to Politics and Economics.
Wibbs wrote: » Oh sure, though the Asian nations are more used to rapid responses after SARS and various flu strains and tend to have very top down government and much more social and community compliance and are more likely to wear face masks anyway, so that makes a big difference. If we come closer to home and European and were to take the Czech numbers because they were among the most "Asian" in their response, adjusting for population we should be at around 150 dead. So essentially through our authorities bumbling we've lost ten times more people what we should have. That's pretty stark.
McGiver wrote: » So it was between their Minister for Health / Chief Epidemiologist and Minister for Business?
Boggles wrote: » Tourism Minister I think. 2nd oldest population in Europe along side a health care system that has been stripped back extensively by austerity is not a great mix. It's the reason they actually did "lockdown" and issued 60,000 fines for breaches of it. Personally don't see the problem with swift mandatory testing, the BBC did a piece on it the other night where a reporter went through the process entering Greece, it was grand.
Bob24 wrote: » If you prefer buying from a pharmacy you also have a box of 50 for 45 euros here which seems like a more reasonable price: https://www.pharmacy.ie/product/face-masks/
Bob24 wrote: » I noticed the price for 50 surgical masks at this pharmacy dropped from 45 euros earlier this week to 35 euros today (around 2-3 weeks ago it was 55 euros for the same box - those old prices of 55 and 45 can still be seen on the webpage). Looks like supply is starting to meet demand.
McGiver wrote: » Or the demand has dropped...
Markomlm wrote: » It's people's personal choice not to wear a mask, stop judging those who do not wish to.
McGiver wrote: » The staggering thing about the Czech vs Irish response is the involvement of the public. In Czechia, the government was very reluctant back at the beginning of March, but the public, media, experts & academia were very strongly calling for masks and other tough measures (such as testing/quarantining incoming people, closing borders) and effectively forced the government to act quickly. The government would dither otherwise and as modelling shows even 2-3 weeks would make a huge difference on the outcome. Whereas in Ireland, the government dithered and dithered, few people got annoyed, nothing happened, the media just sang praises of the government and people went "ah sure 'tis grand" and "them government lads are doing great job", and in the process the media & government managed to convince large portion of the population that one of critical measures i.e. "masks" are bad, useless and even harmful. The outcome - Irish results bottom of the league, Czech results are the top of the league. The Czechs are pretty much back to normal bar masks indoors. But we won't be able to travel more than 20 kms from home until the end of July!
Harry Palmr wrote: » I wore a mask today for the first time in the supermarket. It's the bog standard pale blue type that goes around the ears. I hated it! I wear glasses so with it correctly placed over my nose it bumps into my glasses and they steam up every time I breath out so I have to breath shallow and very slowly which is uncomfortable and a bit stressful. And I say that as someone for whom almost everything is like water off a ducks back. I'll keep wearing them but ONLY indoors when shopping. UGH.
