McGiver wrote: » Ha! I haven't noticed this... WTF?
Stark wrote: » Bought 5 surgical masks for 9 euro in Supervalu yesterday. Good article from the Atlantic on the potential benefits of wearing them: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/dont-wear-mask-yourself/610336/ Of course, if they're too successful then certain people can't have their forevah lockdown.
McGiver wrote: » This document is a flipping joke. The unions should sink it. Haven't heard unions calling for masks - they absolutely should. Some funny things from the document - cleaning of surfaces at the workplace, no handshakes, no sharing of mugs and bottles.... Are they for real?
railer201 wrote: » Indeed, however it does say in the opening paragraphs that the purpose of it is to 'assist the government' in deciding the way forward and it's a 'living flexible' document. Either they're advising on face cloth coverings or not - Oh wait a minute -' that was just illustrative' - mad stuff.
McGiver wrote: » How the f* can be a guidance document illustrative?
owlbethere wrote: » 5 disposable masks for 9 euro is a scandalous price. It really is. Especially considering a pack of 14 fanny pads can be about 3 or 4 euro. I'm definitely going down the route of reusable/cloth/fabric masks.
Boggles wrote: » I guarantee you, in the not too distant future you will have another of Boris's advisors explaining to the British public that if they are caught on the tube without a mask they will be issued a fine. Feel free to bookmark this post. The reason the UK are experiencing 1000+ deaths a day and have collapsed large swathes of their emergency medical care is because their "scientists" diluted science with politics. It never ever works.
dfx- wrote: » Two and a half weeks later now, he's starting on 'encouraging people to work' and not yet on mask fines.
We want it to be safe for you to get to work.So you should avoid public transport if at all possible
carolmon wrote: » fanny pads.... really? What age are you 12?
Wibbs wrote: » Though he has a point too C. In many ways sanitary towels are a more complex item with more components going on, when compared to a surgical mask.
owlbethere wrote: » The thread is huge. Can you point me to 2 or 3 good links qfor the wearing of masks in public. I will pin a written piece sometime today to my local TDs Facebook page and direct him to some links.
Fifteen years ago, the IGA advised the French government to prepare stocks of masks “without delay”. The country should also stock anti-viral drugs and pre-position machines in textile factories to manufacture the highest quality FFP2 surgical face masks, the report said. Face masks are most effective when worn by carriers of a virus. But as a French parliamentary report noted in May 2005, making masks available is “a way of reassuring the population” that can “help to limit paralysis of the country”. Bachelot was accused of squandering €1 billion in public funds for what turned out to be a false alarm. The National Assembly, Senate and state auditor held inquiries into what was regarded as a wasteful vaccination campaign, the “principle of precaution” gone mad. “When the **** hit the fan it was so violent,” Bachelot told Le Monde. “I found myself completely alone, without a single supporter . . . After what happened to me, politicians said it was riskier to do too much than too little.”
Official French policy since January 2006 has been to encourage the wearing of masks during a pandemic. Infected persons are to wear surgical masks to protect their entourage. Medical personnel are to wear FFP2 masks to avoid catching the disease. And the general public are instructed to wear a disinfected surgical or fabric mask in public “as a precaution”.
Manion wrote: » If people are looking for basic textile masks still you can find them on zalando: They have have a few different types available in Ireland (more in Germany) but they keep going in and out of stock. If you're interested you can subscribe for notifications.https://www.zalando.ie/evenandodd-5-pack-community-mask-light-blue-ev451e02r-k11.htmlhttps://www.zalando.ie/zign-3-pack-community-mask-blackdark-bluewhite-zi151e00g-q11.htmlhttps://www.zalando.ie/zign-3-pack-community-mask-black-zi151e00g-q12.htmlhttps://www.zalando.ie/zign-3-pack-community-mask-white-zi151e00g-a11.html
ShineOn7 wrote: » Haven't checked this thread in awhile so two questions; - Best place to now order online that offers best balance of (in order of importance) quality, price and delivery time - Are people wearing them for outside walks where it's easier to social distance or are they pretty unneccesary in this situation? As long as there's social distancing of course. Walk would be 2-3 hours or thereabouts
Seanergy wrote: » Excellent article in yesterday's IT : France pays a high price for ignoring those who predicted a pandemic. It covers the actions of the Inspectorate General of the Administration (IGA) and Health offical's from the wake of the 2003 Sars epidemic right through to present day politics. The 2.2 billion stockpile of masks was reduced to 714 million in 1017, I don't know what it was in 2020 but my point is this. Money and masks and politics aside, the current French government still adopted all the measures that arouse from the 2006 IGA report. Just for the record the HSE stance on masks as of today MAY 11th 2020 is that:Wearing a mask is unlikely to be of any benefit if you are not sick.
owlbethere wrote: » What absolute codswallop from the HSE. How about people being infectious before symptoms appear? We are living with restrictions but when restrictions are eased, the growth of the virus will take off again.
Manion wrote: » I posted this a few days ago but it got lost in the noise. This thread was once useful.
Important information This item is not a surgical or respiratory mask, nor is it personal protective equipment or a medical device. This item is for private use only and it is not suitable for medical use or for occupational safety. No protection against infections.
RugbyLad11 wrote: » 1 euro for a disposable surgical mask is robbery
Are people wearing them for outside walks where it's easier to social distance or are they pretty unneccesary in this situation? As long as there's social distancing of course. Walk would be 2-3 hours or thereabouts
Seanergy wrote: » Just for the record the HSE stance on masks as of today MAY 11th 2020 is that: Wearing a mask is unlikely to be of any benefit if you are not sick.
ChelseaRentBoy wrote: » Every day that passes without mandatory mask wearing being enforced means businesses will have to wait longer to reopen as our numbers remain stubbornly high. Masks work.
ShineOn7 wrote: » PS Any more thoughts on this? And any more links on good sellers? The majority of the good masks on zalando.ie are sold out
