partyguinness wrote: » I don't really care whether you believe me or not and yes I am fine with that. **** happens. Of course everything must be done to keep it down but there is a point where enough is enough now. Thousands of people die from car crashes every years. Hell hundreds if not thousands of people will die today in a car crash but I am still going to drive home later. I may get killed. **** happens. As Bill Clinton said: "It's the economy, stupid." Never a truer word spoken.
LiquidZeb wrote: » You're completely misconstruing my point. What im saying is you pulled up the poster for his reaction to the current death toll for covid and I asked what about the other 50 million deaths per annum. I don't know how you got around to cutting pieta house and cancer research funding other than a half arsed attempt to shame me.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » Minister for finance says govt. strategy will help Ireland avoid 2nd wave, in response to NZ PM saying Ireland is very slow.Ahh the dreaded 2nd wave applicable to Ireland only.
RugbyLad11 wrote: » It says the hotels will open in phase 4 but there is still hotels open in Dublin city
partyguinness wrote: » Ireland looks like a beacon of sensibility compared to the **** show over here in England. Difference is that Ireland is a small sparsely populated country where every one knows everyone. In England, nobody gives a ****.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » Emotional decisions are always the worst. Leo, Simon & Tony will have a lot to answer for, given the scale of this shambles I can see all 3 of them needing to testify, and come up with factual things to say rather than "keep deaths as low as possible".
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » Are you feeling ok? Seems to me there are a small group of posters here who have completely lost the plot. Is it worry, fear, panic...?
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » I am not ok. 25% of 18-35 year olds will be unemployed for many years to come.
lawrencesummers wrote: » Send me on a link to your outdated essays. I would be interested in reading them.
uli84 wrote: » In the meantime-FINANCE MINISTER PASCHAL Donohoe has said the Pandemic Unemployment Payment (PUP) will continue beyond its original end date but that the level of the payment may change.https://www.thejournal.ie/pandemic-unemployment-payment-wage-subsidy-scheme-5092303-May2020/
seamus wrote: » There is still a need for hotels in various areas; essential workers, homeless people, etc. A limited number of hotels are open, but they're not booking in tourists or couples off on a cheeky weekend.
easypazz wrote: » Sweden's medical team believe the 2.3million Stockholm metro area will have achieved herd immunity in weeks.
If a second wave hits in September who is to say Sweden will see very little of it but Denmark and Finland will see another round of death and come back in line with them. Same with the UK, maybe the short term pain will be worth it, as they won't get another wallop in a possible second wave.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » I am not ok. 25% of 18-35 year olds will be unemployed for many years to come. I dont understand how anyone can be ok. Especially people in the current decision making capacity.
growleaves wrote: » No, people should have their say. Take off to foreign climes yourself if you can't handle disagreement. You're free to take the government line on everything and rubbish anyone with a different opinion but people can talk back too.
easypazz wrote: » Disgraceful, hitting the people who have suffered the most. How about they hit the public sector, who have experienced no loss from this. In fact an awful lot of them are up money as they are not spending it on driving to work, creche, eating out in restaurants, hair dressers and all the rest.
RugbyLad11 wrote: » Believe it or not there are still some tourist in Dublin so they must be staying in hotels
lawrencesummers wrote: » And there is a perfect example of you making a point and missing the point. People die in car crashes, but less die because of the raft of measures that governments bring in to reduce it. Car safety levels, speed limits, driver education, alcohol limits, eye sight checks, Examinations of Driving skills etc etc etc. **** happens, but less **** happens because some of it can be controlled and mitigated. Like what’s happening now with temporary restrictions.
Mad_maxx wrote: » we can all play that game , anyone born in the 1940,s lived like a king compared to someone born in ireland in the 1840,s your post is nothing but well dressed whataboutery the over seventies should have been ringfenced by force and if some of them either through stupidity or pig headedness , decided to break curfew , had no one to blame but themselves , ditto for those with respitory conditions , the government completely dropped the ball with regard the nursing homes , it was a blindingly obvious hotspot , dont however try and pretend that the shut everything down approach was about anything but trying to stay on side with an extremely powerful political demographic, had the elderly been singled out for clampdown , joe duffy would have been doing liveline for twelve hours each day , the wailing about how the elderly were being treated differently would have been too much for the government to bear so the rest of us had to join the whole life in limbo thing for three months , it was about making no one feel different the government were told that the elderly were most at risk and then fearful that the rest of the population would pass it on and the headlines would read " government kills granny " , decided to kneecap the entire economy rather than surgically focus on the very specific vulnerable demographic
But, wait, I thought Sweden wasn't officially pursuing a herd immunity strategy? Are they now admitting that they made such a balls of it that they've ended up with a de facto herd immunity strategy?
KrustyUCC wrote: » What is so radically different over here?
lord quackinton wrote: » I hate doing this but you have not got a clue None of your post makes any sense unless you have not and assume you will never be affected by this lockdown Public servant? Teacher? HSE admin? My guess is teacher Before I answer your full post I will need your job title and employer please? I am an accountant and have already posted my job and salary will not be affected by this, I come here with clean hands and honesty A lot of posters like yourself who back the lockdown will not give their job title and employer because once they did the cat would be out of the bag and they would be seen as the hypocrites that they are Job title and employer please Then I will explain to you why your post is wrong
Deleted User wrote: » The worry, fear and panic is with the lockdown merchants IMO, who have completely lost the plot
lawrencesummers wrote: » No they won’t, it’s more like 75% of the useless 18-35 year olds will be unemployed for years to come, jobs markets like every other market contract, and after years of expansion a contraction was going to happen at some stage. Those who work hard and apply themselves Will be fine. Your job is the thing that simply put you predominately get what you deserve in this life
partyguinness wrote: » Yeah because my final year university essays are available online and anyway they would be way above your head. If my little posts have upset you this much you will need therapy once you read how the world's corporations operate.
easypazz wrote: » Disgraceful, hitting the people who have suffered the most.How about they hit the public sector, who have experienced no loss from this. In fact an awful lot of them are up money as they are not spending it on driving to work, creche, eating out in restaurants, hair dressers and all the rest.
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