Cyrus wrote: » pretty simple thing to implement though? they can literally decree that you have to wear a mask or get fined, suddenly everyone will wear them. should be mandatory in supermarkets / hardware stores imo, not in the open.
stephenjmcd wrote: » The wearing of masks here will have guidelines issued within 2 weeks we were told on Friday however it wont be mandatory nor enforceable, that's what Leo said anyway
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » Its tragic dont get me wrong. Its tragic that Ireland has had 65 times more deaths than New Zealand given identical population size. Am I angry? yes. Do i think government have failed us? yes. Do i think that we should continue making mistakes of sitting at home and wait for a virus to go away? no.
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » Which it is in Austria so not comparable to the situation here unless there is a change in government policy within the next 2 weeks which may well happen.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » I would protect the at risk group. I would literally impose lockdowns on people with asthma and over 60 year olds. I would strongly suggest that there is no interaction between elderly and the young until a vaccine or a treatment drug is developed. These arent nice measures but have to be done. .
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » That's incorrect. If Sweden's deaths per 1m is 279, and Ireland's is 261, it seems to suggest lockdown is borderline useless. Wash your hands and try to stay 2 meters away from strangers and no public gatherings of more than 50 people has done the job for Sweden and did not create 22% unemployment/ 14% long term unemployment. But then you have people coming and starting to give you demographics of Sweden, how their people are superior and smarter than Irish people and can follow directions etc. How Irish people are drunks and would break social distancing in pubs within 10 mins of entering etc etc. Nonsense.
Naos wrote: » How exactly is what I have said incorrect? Why don't you point to a country that didn't implement a lockdown, for example the US and look at their infection and death rates? And yes, rightly so people will come on board and state demographics or culture, examples such Sweden's population density of 25 per km2 vs Ireland's 70 per km2, more than 50% of Swedish households are single-person vs 23% of Irelands, they have more people working from home than anywhere else in Europe etc. But hey, let's ignore the details that paint the full picture.
fly_agaric wrote: » We can look at the UK which is our closest comparator which acted a bit more slowly than us, and does seem to have been hit somewhat harder.
robbiezero wrote: » Friend of mine going to take her 7 week old first born to see Granny for the first time today outside the 20KM zone (with distancing, masks etc). she would normally be very non-rebellious and follow all the rules, was initially hoping for May 5th to be allowed do this, but wuth the news and figures in the week leading up to it, she was prepared for that to be delayed by a few weeks even to end of the month, but the July 20th nonsense made up her mind for her very quickly.
stephenjmcd wrote: » The current government can't pass any more laws. Need a fully functioning Dail and Seanad which requires a new taoiseach to appoint 11 individuals to the Seanad. They can't even get the business supports announced during the weekend through without a new government.
na1 wrote: » I won't be wearing mask unless I've been given one. buying a mask for 10 euro which normally cost 1 euro - no, thanks.
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » How do you know there won`t be a new government in place in 2 weeks time? Even in political circles things can happen quickly enough when the pressure is on.
Penfailed wrote: » Did anyone realistically think that it was going to be never ending?
road_high wrote: » Yes, I believe many do. The government hasn’t been wholly honest with them. It’ll be a bitter pill for many in well paid jobs down to €200 per week and letters from their banks.
uli84 wrote: » Anybody has got the list of countries where schools will be closed until September?
seamus wrote: » I won't be wearing a mask unless there's proper guidance on the type of mask that works, and evidence that it works. I'm not going to wear some crappy mask that's 1% effective so that some combeen can come up and cough in my face. I'll stand 2m away without a mask, thanks.
stephenjmcd wrote: » Because there wont be. All parties invovled would have to sit down for talks which is due to happen soon, based on those talks they can then create a programme for government and then circulate to all party members which then have to have time to read it before each party convenes its membership to vote on said document. After that the nominations for Taoiseach have to be submitted and the Dail will be convened in the convention centre so that a full sitting can take place with social distancing. 2 weeks won't be possible. Even the most optimistic of politicians and political commentators says early June at the very earliest. More than likely mid June.
easypazz wrote: » Indeed, like a pilot probably earning €80-€100K and very unqualified for a job anywhere else and no prospects in his own field. But as long as an 82 year old gets to be wheeled out of the hospital to a guard of honour after beating covid-19 then all these sacrifices will be worth it.
easypazz wrote: » If it has to happen in 2 weeks though it can be made happen. Even if its only a short term arrangement to pass covid laws.
hmmm wrote: » There's this simplistic idea from some on the thread that Sweden implemented no measures at all, therefore everything else can be measured against them.
Irish Aris wrote: » Shouldn't we do both though? keep the distance and wear a mask? I, at least, plan to do so. These things shouldn't be mutually exclusive.
Penfailed wrote: » Somewhat. 29,000 deaths there. 1,300 here.
