na1 wrote: » I won't be wearing mask unless I've been given one. buying a mask for 10 euro which normally cost 1 euro - no, thanks.
stephenjmcd wrote: » The current government can't pass any more laws. Need a fully functioning Dail and Seanad which requires a new taoiseach to appoint 11 individuals to the Seanad. They can't even get the business supports announced during the weekend through without a new government.
robbiezero wrote: » Friend of mine going to take her 7 week old first born to see Granny for the first time today outside the 20KM zone (with distancing, masks etc). she would normally be very non-rebellious and follow all the rules, was initially hoping for May 5th to be allowed do this, but wuth the news and figures in the week leading up to it, she was prepared for that to be delayed by a few weeks even to end of the month, but the July 20th nonsense made up her mind for her very quickly.
Naos wrote: » How exactly is what I have said incorrect? Why don't you point to a country that didn't implement a lockdown, for example the US and look at their infection and death rates? And yes, rightly so people will come on board and state demographics or culture, examples such Sweden's population density of 25 per km2 vs Ireland's 70 per km2, more than 50% of Swedish households are single-person vs 23% of Irelands, they have more people working from home than anywhere else in Europe etc. But hey, let's ignore the details that paint the full picture.
fly_agaric wrote: » We can look at the UK which is our closest comparator which acted a bit more slowly than us, and does seem to have been hit somewhat harder.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » That's incorrect. If Sweden's deaths per 1m is 279, and Ireland's is 261, it seems to suggest lockdown is borderline useless. Wash your hands and try to stay 2 meters away from strangers and no public gatherings of more than 50 people has done the job for Sweden and did not create 22% unemployment/ 14% long term unemployment. But then you have people coming and starting to give you demographics of Sweden, how their people are superior and smarter than Irish people and can follow directions etc. How Irish people are drunks and would break social distancing in pubs within 10 mins of entering etc etc. Nonsense.
stephenjmcd wrote: » The wearing of masks here will have guidelines issued within 2 weeks we were told on Friday however it wont be mandatory nor enforceable, that's what Leo said anyway
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » I would protect the at risk group. I would literally impose lockdowns on people with asthma and over 60 year olds. I would strongly suggest that there is no interaction between elderly and the young until a vaccine or a treatment drug is developed. These arent nice measures but have to be done. .
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » Which it is in Austria so not comparable to the situation here unless there is a change in government policy within the next 2 weeks which may well happen.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » Its tragic dont get me wrong. Its tragic that Ireland has had 65 times more deaths than New Zealand given identical population size. Am I angry? yes. Do i think government have failed us? yes. Do i think that we should continue making mistakes of sitting at home and wait for a virus to go away? no.
Cyrus wrote: » pretty simple thing to implement though? they can literally decree that you have to wear a mask or get fined, suddenly everyone will wear them. should be mandatory in supermarkets / hardware stores imo, not in the open.
kippy wrote: » It's literally not that simple. What's the age profile of those that required hospitilasitaion? What's the percentage of known cases in ireland that needed hospitilisation?
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » The part of your post that I highlighted in bold is I believe very relevant to what has happened (so far) in Austria since the easing of restrictions there. The wearing of masks will not apply here or at least there are no plans for it to.
stephenjmcd wrote: » Updates from Germany and Austria being carried on RTE, "Germany's biggest state Bavaria will allow restaurants to reopen from 18 May, the state premier said, after a shutdown to halt transmission of the novel coronavirus that has crippled the economy. In the progressive plan to restart the gastronomy sector, Markus Soeder said restaurants will first be allowed to offer outdoor dining from 18 May, before extending the opening to indoor dining a week later. " Austria Austria's health minister said the coronavirus pandemic in the country was under control, three weeks after it began to ease a strict lockdown. "The situation is very constant, very stable," Rudolf Anschober said, adding the daily increase in new infections had shrunk to 0.2%, down from up to 50% in mid-March. Small shops and hardware and gardening stores reopened in mid-April after a month-long lockdown though wearing masks in shops and public transport, and practising social distancing became mandatory. Bigger shops followed suit this weekend, and restrictions that largely forbid people from leaving their homes were lifted. Classes in schools are resuming this month, and restaurants are expected to reopen by mid-May.
The Jman wrote: » I work in a large department store which sells homewares, seasonal product and clothing. What phase of reopening do ppl think we would fall into? At first I was resigned to June 29th but now I'm not so sure.
Deleted User wrote: » I mean, its a no brainer really isn't it. Over 90% of the deaths are over 65. Majority of the hospitalizations as well. Lock them down will solve our problems. But we actually encouraged them to come out.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » I would protect the at risk group. I would literally impose lockdowns on people with asthma and over 60 year olds. I would strongly suggest that there is no interaction between elderly and the young until a vaccine or a treatment drug is developed. These arent nice measures but have to be done. I would encourage public to wash their hands more frequently and follow social distancing where it is possible. And shut down any large public gatherings (1000 + people at concerts etc) temporarily. We have young, healthy population who can survive HIV let alone a 0.65% mortality virus. Why keep them indoors and let their immune system degrade? Our immune systems develop through our interaction with the world, with good bacteria and bad bacteria, not through sitting at home watching netflix.
mooseknunkle wrote: » I followed the restrictions for the first 4 weeks and done my part,two weeks ago i started going for longer walks well outside of the 2km radius just me and my dog ,today i got a haircut from a barber and im going to travel over 100km to meet up with a friend sometime tomorrow. I've given up on these restrictions and won't be following them any longer,best to luck to anyone on here whos willing to sit on their hands at home for the next 3 months and believe everything the government is telling them.
Cina wrote: » They're not overhwhelmed because we went into lockdown. Have you seen Italy? Or the US? Prime examples of what happens when countries didn't do what we did early enough. The problem is that people like you see the lower death rates and assume that means the virus isn't actually as deadly as we've been told, despite those low death rates only being there because we've all been under strict f*cking lockdowns. Maybe they do need to open everything up again for a while so you lot can see what will happen if this virus is left unchecked. Coronoavirus has already been proven to be extremely infectious, with much higher mortality rates than the flu yet you still get people claiming it's not as bad as it's made out to be. mental. It's amazing how the internet brigade seemingly know more than most top scientists and doctors worldwide. Fair play to ye.
Asal beag dubh wrote: » Even if you think that a righteous cull of older people who are on death's door anyway is justifiable ... on the tenuous grounds that it's a fair trade off for getting the economy back up and running and for younger people's mental health ...... please take a look at some of the videos that front line healthcare workers have been posting from areas that are overwhelmed from the virus. These people are on the brink. Some have died due to their efforts (from the virus or suicide) and many will probably suffer from some form of PTSD for years to come. These people didn't sign up for this level of risk/stress/trauma but they keep going. Many are still posting messages pleading with people to stay at home. Thankfully we haven't reached this level in Ireland but we weren't far off it - many, many HCW have been sick from COVID. We need to protect them and make sure that if there is a spike, that they're available and have the capacity and energy to deal with it. Please show some consideration.
kippy wrote: » What would you have done and when?
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