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Relaxation of restrictions Part II

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Continuation of the "Relaxation of restrictions" from here.

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Galwayguy35

I also know of a barber who will give a haircut by appointment, he takes all the necessary steps to protect himself and his customer.

Its good to see some people getting back on their feet before they have no business to go back to.

FintanMcluskey

costacorta wrote: »

What threat would 1000 guys on a bike with a litre of milk do ?

It would be extremely dangerous for a start.
Im not sure would 1000 men all fit on a bike, but if they did Im sure they would manage the litre of milk

costacorta

easypazz wrote: »

What threat does a lad on a bike with a litre of milk pose?

What threat would 1000 guys on a bike with a litre of milk do ? Rules are for everyone and that’s like saying what threat would 2 guys in a pub do or 20 people on a beach ?

easypazz

Stheno wrote: »

Eh you do know that restaurants are scheduled to open on June 19th?

Have you posted one single post outside this foeumsince you joined yesterday???

I doubt there will be many opening with the rules being forced on them by the cervicalcheck dictator.

NIMAN

rob316 wrote: »

We can't afford this, our children are already going to be paying off the bank bailout. We can't add another 20/30 billion to it. Lets see how pro-lockdown people are when the next budget comes around.

It will be interesting to see how much support there will be for any austerity measures that have to be brought in in the coming years to pay for all this.

At present it would appear the majority support the governments handling of this crisis. Many think they are doing a great job. They continue to say we have to do whatever it takes to beat this virus.

But this is going to cost us, and a lot.

I can't see everyone saying "ah sure no problem, I don't mind paying more tax, didn't we beat the virus " when the pain comes.

lawrencesummers

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Assuming this story is true what precautions is your local barber taking? Is he wearing gloves or a mask? Is he properly cleaning and disinfecting his equipment? Does he have family or friends in one of the high risk groups?What about his clients? The same questions apply to them as well.

It’s clearly made up. No place in Dublin has a “local barber”’they have about 6 of them.

Stheno

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

I think it isnt about defending owns statement. A fact remains that Ireland will have on the 9th of August, longest lockdown for restaurants etc. on the whole planet.

Only way to disprove is it to say oh hey, look at Madagascar, they locked up their restaurant staff for 7 months because of fears of 0.65% mortality rate disease. It would be funny if true, but it isnt true. No one comes even close to our 5 months effective lockdown thats the painful thing :(:(

Eh you do know that restaurants are scheduled to open on June 19th?

Have you posted one single post outside this foeumsince you joined yesterday???

who_ru

VonLuck wrote: »

I'd hate to be in a position of power right now. No matter what you do you will be criticised.

If you give in to pressure and relax measures you'll be blamed that the number of cases / deaths could have been lower.

If it's successful, you'll receive criticism that the measures were too strict and are crippling the economy.

The reality is that no one knows for sure what the right approach is. The important thing is that there is a plan in place and that it needs to be followed through, regardless of whether you agree with it or not.

If the plan on lifting the restrictions goes as expected Ireland will have had the longest lockdown of any country in the world as it won't end until August 10.

lawrencesummers

scamalert wrote: »

id guess propably every town in ireland by now has few barbers garages and other places doing job off side, you do realize some people still work every day, and have to look presentable, not everyone hides in a corner like a little b%tch thinking it will go away once government says so.

Says a lot about a fella that you think sporting a fresh fade is a pre requisite of looking presentable.

Cork Boy 53

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

My local barber is open, you need to make an appointment and he has his blinds down so people can't see inside.

I know people won't be happy to hear that but I say fair play to him we need to get this country back up and running.

Imagine the guards raiding a barbers and arresting people for getting their haircut...

Assuming this story is true what precautions is your local barber taking? Is he wearing gloves or a mask? Is he properly cleaning and disinfecting his equipment? Does he have family or friends in one of the high risk groups?What about his clients? The same questions apply to them as well.

rob316

hmmm wrote: »

Don't worry, it sounds made up. Any guard worth their salt would have heard of this and shut it down quickly.

The Guards have done a good job balancing trying to enforce the restrictions while not being too heavy handed. A few mistakes, but nothing as bad as some of the UK forces.

This thread is full of Trumpian extremists - it would be nice to have a thread where we could discuss how we realistically open up safely over the next few weeks.

I despise Trump but I'm not brainwashed enough to ignore the fact this timeline of reopening could kill off many sectors in our country. We can't afford this, our children are already going to be paying off the bank bailout. We can't add another 20/30 billion to it. Lets see how pro-lockdown people are when the next budget comes around.

We need everything open by July 1st at the latest and it can be done.

Ginger n Lemon

hmmm wrote: »

Don't worry, it sounds made up. Any guard worth their salt would have heard of this and shut it down quickly.

The Guards have done a good job balancing trying to enforce the restrictions while not being too heavy handed. A few mistakes, but nothing as bad as some of the UK forces.

This thread is full of Trumpian extremists - it would be nice to have a thread where we could discuss how we realistically open up safely over the next few weeks.

I've responded previously to this very genuine request, my response is below

The numbers clearly say that most deaths occur either in hospitals or nursing homes. We do not have 80% of 1300 dead people collected from their homes because they got corona on their most recent Aldi trip.

We need to have a clear plan of A)protecting everyone who is over 60 years of age OR people with underlying conditions that are younger than 60 and

keeping the economy going and not putting people into poverty that will cause thousands of deaths 12 months from now.

To achieve A & B only possible way out of this is to tell the younger, healthier population to go to work and NOT interact with elderly (not easy, but has to be done) until a vaccine or a treatment drug has been developed.

This can be done in 3 short phases with 2 weeks between each other, all the outdoor workers first (construction etc) then 2 weeks later small shops/barbers/restaurants with small capacity and then lastly open up large shops/TK maxx etc etc. Do it on capacity level rather than industry/area. No one knows if barbers or pubs would be more infectious, so its better to open by capacity and estimate worst case scenarios and see if empty hospitals can handle.

the dark phantom

Charles Babbage wrote: »

The joined to protect the safety of the public and thry are doing that. What's the problem?

Protecting the safety of the public from the Cannabis plant..

easypazz

Charles Babbage wrote: »

The joined to protect the safety of the public and thry are doing that. What's the problem?

What threat does a lad on a bike with a litre of milk pose?

hmmm

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Imagine being that utterly sad that you cant manage without a haircut for a few weeks.

Don't worry, it sounds made up. Any guard worth their salt would have heard of this and shut it down quickly.

The Guards have done a good job balancing trying to enforce the restrictions while not being too heavy handed. A few mistakes, but nothing as bad as some of the UK forces.

This thread is full of Trumpian extremists - it would be nice to have a thread where we could discuss how we realistically open up safely over the next few weeks.

Charles Babbage

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

I wonder if any of Gardai members have second thoughts about what they are doing though. I mean they went through serious training and screening before being accepted into Gardai, now they are stopping cyclists with milk in shopping bags and enquiring as to direction, location of residence and purpose of the milk. sad.

The joined to protect the safety of the public and they are doing that. What's the problem?

Charles Babbage

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

I wonder if any of Gardai members have second thoughts about what they are doing though. I mean they went through serious training and screening before being accepted into Gardai, now they are stopping cyclists with milk in shopping bags and enquiring as to direction, location of residence and purpose of the milk. sad.

The joined to protect the safety of the public and thry are doing that. What's the problem?

scamalert

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Imagine being that utterly sad that you cant manage without a haircut for a few weeks. I can empathise with single fathers (mothers) who haven’t seen their kids, Grandparents who haven’t seen anyone, or people with companies that have slaved for years to build them up / families in tiny houses and no gardens, I can’t understand their need to push the boundaries of the rules, but if you can’t cope without a haircut for a few weeks then your are nothing other than a class A bell end.

It had to be Dublin as well, the capital of narcissistic self entitled clowns.

id guess propably every town in ireland by now has few barbers garages and other places doing job off side, you do realize some people still work every day, and have to look presentable, not everyone hides in a corner like a little b%tch thinking it will go away once government says so.

Ginger n Lemon

Penfailed wrote: »

It's amazing. You've got a great gift for deflecting anything directed at you. Rather than defend yourself, you change the subject and spin it to suit your narrative.

*tips hat*

I think it isnt about defending owns statement. A fact remains that Ireland will have on the 9th of August, longest lockdown for restaurants etc. on the whole planet.

Only way to disprove is it to say oh hey, look at Madagascar, they locked up their restaurant staff for 7 months because of fears of 0.65% mortality rate disease. It would be funny if true, but it isnt true. No one comes even close to our 5 months effective lockdown thats the painful thing

:(:(

FintanMcluskey

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Imagine being that utterly sad that you cant manage without a haircut for a few weeks. I can empathise with single fathers (mothers) who haven’t seen their kids, Grandparents who haven’t seen anyone, or people with companies that have slaved for years to build them up / families in tiny houses and no gardens, I can’t understand their need to push the boundaries of the rules, but if you can’t cope without a haircut for a few weeks then your are nothing other than a class A bell end.

It had to be Dublin as well, the capital of narcissistic self entitled clowns.

Thats some baloney over a haircut

lawrencesummers

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

My local barber is open, you need to make an appointment and he has his blinds down so people can't see inside.

I know people won't be happy to hear that but I say fair play to him we need to get this country back up and running.

Imagine the guards raiding a barbers and arresting people for getting their haircut...

Imagine being that utterly sad that you cant manage without a haircut for a few weeks. I can empathise with single fathers (or mothers) who haven’t seen their kids, Grandparents who haven’t seen anyone, or people with companies that have slaved for years to build them up / families in tiny houses and no gardens, I can’t understand their need to push the boundaries of the rules, but if you can’t cope without a haircut for a few weeks then your are nothing other than a class A bell end.

It had to be Dublin as well, the capital of narcissistic self entitled clowns.

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Another day closer......

Penfailed

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Of course I do, its unsubstantiated claims sticking that has Ireland in the longest lockdown in Europe.
If Luke O Neill can guffaw unsubstantiated rubbish on the public service broadcaster you can bet I'll feel entitled to do likewise

It's amazing. You've got a great gift for deflecting anything directed at you. Rather than defend yourself, you change the subject and spin it to suit your narrative.

*tips hat*

Ginger n Lemon

Leo's assessment of Dr Tony's strategy:

Ireland's attitude to the coronavirus battle is the same one we apply to the Eurovision: no matter how far down the board we are as long we are doing better than England we still feel like we're winning.

thecretinhop

dis thread is worse than the other one. and that's saying something

cadaliac

Why is everyone giving out about the cops doing their jobs?
Nobody likes the restrictions, nobody wants the cops stopping the public but they are under instruction to do so.
We all want to get back to work, its not happening for a while. There are restrictions in place. Obey them. It helps to stop the spread. It's not rocket science.

RugbyLad11

sterz wrote: »

Sure throw out his name there and we can all help him get the country back up and running.

Haha I would love to help all you lads get a haircut but a lot of c*nts on here would report him

road_high

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

I wonder if any of Gardai members have second thoughts about what they are doing though. I mean they went through serious training and screening before being accepted into Gardai, now they are stopping cyclists with milk in shopping bags and enquiring as to direction, location of residence and purpose of the milk. sad.

I don't think many seem to to be taking that long term pragmatic view conscious of the sledge hammer they've taken to public good will going forward. "We were just following orders". Of course you were.
Wonder what public support for any pay claim they may have in future will be like? Of course you'll get a cohort of sheep who think stopping people going to a beach or going for a 10 km cycle is a wonderful concept and a good use of borrowed money. But I'm sure there are many sensible people out there who don't.

FintanMcluskey

Penfailed wrote: »

Eh? Do you just throw random unsubstantiated claims out there and hope some of them will stick?.

Of course I do, its unsubstantiated claims sticking that has Ireland in the longest lockdown in Europe.
If Luke O Neill can guffaw unsubstantiated rubbish on the public service broadcaster you can bet I'll feel entitled to do likewise

Ginger n Lemon

road_high wrote: »

Great to hear that barber story. Only way we can crush this mind numbing inane nanny state rubbish is by people getting on with their lives and work and basically ignoring it from here on. And let the Gardai raid the lot

I wonder if any of Gardai members have second thoughts about what they are doing though. I mean they went through serious training and screening before being accepted into Gardai, now they are stopping cyclists with milk in shopping bags and enquiring as to direction, location of residence and purpose of the milk. sad.