FintanMcluskey wrote: » That not going to happen, that would be as foolish as to suggest that -The CMO would respond to a direct question about whats required regarding numbers with "as low as possible". -The health minister with no idea what the 19 means in Covid 19 -The NPHET would refuse to publish the minutes of and refusing journalist access to the meetings with the CMO claiming they are "busy"
snotboogie wrote: » Anyone hear Newstalk this morning with the HSE executive? She made it clear that there is no timeline to end social distancing and that we will have to get used to a new normal. Annoyingly the host was intent on putting hand washing and social distancing in the same bracket "I guess we'll just all have to get used to washing hands and social distancing" as if they are one in the same. Hand washing is a minor inconvenience which has almost no downside, social distancing will force us to reconsider everything about our society and economy. I've said it over and over and over but people are not grasping the drastic implications of long term social distancing. The restrictions being lifted are a sideshow, a non event for most people. The real question is when we won't need to be 2 metres away from anyone not in our household. Society cannot function anything like it did before with social distancing in place.
Snugglebunnies wrote: » I think this is the thing bothering me most. No end to social distancing... I'm surprised there hasn't been a lot more conversation about it.
Snugglebunnies wrote: » I think this is the thing bothering me most. No end to social distancing...
peasant wrote: » The virus is extremely contagious The virus spreads most actively before or just during the onset of symptoms. So the person that infects you most likely shows no symptoms at all or just a light sniffle that could be anything or nothing. The virus could kill you...perhaps it won't, perhaps it will. And social distancing bothers you?
yosemitesam1 wrote: » The real hospitalisation rate is under 1.5%, flu is circa 1% for comparison
VonLuck wrote: » I'd hate to be in a position of power right now. No matter what you do you will be criticised. If you give in to pressure and relax measures you'll be blamed that the number of cases / deaths could have been lower. If it's successful, you'll receive criticism that the measures were too strict and are crippling the economy. The reality is that no one knows for sure what the right approach is. The important thing is that there is a plan in place and that it needs to be followed through, regardless of whether you agree with it or not.
Bob24 wrote: » Went out for my first walk in weeks besides very short ones to the grocery shop and pretty appalled by what I saw. Looks like to me restriction have in effect been largely relaxed already with many people passing by each other at very close distance and hundreds lying in the park. Pics attached.
drunkmonkey wrote: » Yea no end:rolleyes:https://www.foxnews.com/us/video-texas-park-ranger-social-distancing-pushed-lake
KrustyUCC wrote: » https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/coronavirus/whos-in-charge-cracks-appearing-as-tensions-mount-over-lockdown-exit-strategy/ar-BB13wvJx?ocid=sf2 Interesting article NPHET wanted 4 weeks in between phases lol Ours is one of the slowest plans in Europe as it is with 3 weeks inbetween phases
Snugglebunnies wrote: » Well obviously people dying bothers me more! But how can anyone live normally if you have to stay 2 metres from everyone, until when?
lawrencesummers wrote: » Out of interest are you comparing the figures of a pandemic with Countermeasure restrictions In place versus a disease without restrictions?
Snugglebunnies wrote: » ...how can anyone live normally if you have to stay 2 metres from everyone, until when?
FintanMcluskey wrote: » Do if you have time. Essentially Sweden should now be seeing death rates of about 250k with doctors having to make decisions on who to save and let die. Triage seen in the trenches of WW1.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » The 2m thing is unproven. So is the thinking that this is a death sentence. Life will return to normal, for those who think social distancing will carry on forevermore, basic evolution will prevent them from passing on the thoughts to the next generations. Very hard to meet someone and have kids from 2m away.
peasant wrote: » It's the new normal....if you want to be sure that you and others don't die, you keep your distance until the virus is gone. That's as simple and as difficult as it's going to be for the next while. Right now no-one can tell you how long or short that will be, only that they're working on it.
kippy wrote: » The 2m thing will continue to be a recommendation untill one of a few things have happened. It's likely to go on well past the next 6 months. What do you mean that its' unproven?
SusieBlue wrote: » The isolation, loneliness and economy crashing also has potential to kill a lot of us, but that isn’t important or relevant to a lot of people here.
Snugglebunnies wrote: » What's that got to do with what I said?
easypazz wrote: » Nonsense as usual. Stockholm expects herd immunity in weeks, while here we conned into a middle of August plan and lectured about a second wave. We think that most of those are immune from transmission in society, not the workplace. We could reach herd immunity in Stockholm within a matter of weeks.
easypazz wrote: » How is their economy in tatters? Unemployment expected to go from 7 to 10%
easypazz wrote: » In Ireland it is 17% and rising, and projected to hit 22%
easypazz wrote: » GDP in Sweden will take a short term hit but it is expected to bounce back in 2021.
easypazz wrote: » More tosh. You have swallowed Holohans doctrine hook, line and sinker.
easypazz wrote: » We have a right to challenge and question these peoples strategy. The government paniced into this strategy and like you are afraid to accept that there might have been a better way.
easypazz wrote: » Don't be surprised if we are following the Sweden model by July.
easypazz wrote: » I have moved on from observing the lockdown. I am capable of doing so while engaging in social distancing, being sensible and not risking spreading the disease. As are most people, but the government don't want to accept that.
yosemitesam1 wrote: » It's a constant figure with or without restrictions.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » No one will criticise transparency
SusieBlue wrote: » Anyone single can kiss goodbye any hopes of meeting someone and starting a relationship until there is a vaccine, if the current social distancing rules stay in place. Established relationships will break down from the lack of intimacy and the distance, because if you don’t live with your partner how are you supposed to have any kind of functioning sex life if you have to stay 2m apart from each other? When the reality & repercussions of the current rules set in there will be a lot of anger & frustration. When people realise they are expected to sacrifice having any kind of romantic relationships until there is a vaccine I can imagine the tide turning quite rapidly.
drunkmonkey wrote: » There's an end to social distancing, we've survived many a plague, if everyone played by the rules none of us would be here.
