SusieBlue wrote: » That’s exactly my point, it’s unachievable and too big an ask to expect people to sacrifice any kind of romantic relationship until there is a vaccine, whenever that happens to be. There is no way the Irish public will abide by that or support it. It’s wishful thinking to the extreme.
kippy wrote: » I can't see how you can make that statement without any evidence....
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » Dunno about anyone else here but today has been an eye opener with regard to people ignoring the restrictions. This thread title should be changed to easing of restrictions has haaoend.
Ginger n Lemon wrote: » I wouldnt count on vaccine at all. Such has only started to being developed in January this year. Say it comes out in September, will you inject something into your body that has been in development for 9 months? Say this comes out in September 2021. Would you be comfortable with injecting something into your body that has only been around for 21 months? I am unsure why would you want to sacrifice your normal life to avoid a virus that kills less than 1%? And even that less than 1% has underlying conditions such as cancer, heart disease. It's very unfortunate, but that's the reality of whats happening.
fly_agaric wrote: » This pandemic restriction period has been interesting in that I've never seen so many free market boosters/right wing types so deeply concerned by issues like long term unemployment/underemployment, the mental health and well being of the general public & the govt.'s tax revenue. Gives me hope for the future anyway.
kippy wrote: » There is and end to it but the point being made was that the recommendation will go on longer than any of the restrictions being lifted.
VonLuck wrote: » What's not transparent at the moment? Not saying that we have all the information, just genuinely interested in what you think should be told to the public.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » In fairness our packed pubs full of drunks are a different story to having a beer on a plaza in the warm Italian summer, it's apples and oranges
FintanMcluskey wrote: » The 2m thing is unproven. So is the thinking that this is a death sentence. Life will return to normal, for those who think social distancing will carry on forevermore, basic evolution will prevent them from passing on the thoughts to the next generations. Very hard to meet someone and have kids from 2m away.
SusieBlue wrote: » The isolation, loneliness and economy crashing also has potential to kill a lot of us, but that isn’t important or relevant to a lot of people here.
drunkmonkey wrote: » There's an end to social distancing, we've survived many a plague, if everyone played by the rules none of us would be here.
SusieBlue wrote: » Anyone single can kiss goodbye any hopes of meeting someone and starting a relationship until there is a vaccine, if the current social distancing rules stay in place. Established relationships will break down from the lack of intimacy and the distance, because if you don’t live with your partner how are you supposed to have any kind of functioning sex life if you have to stay 2m apart from each other? When the reality & repercussions of the current rules set in there will be a lot of anger & frustration. When people realise they are expected to sacrifice having any kind of romantic relationships until there is a vaccine I can imagine the tide turning quite rapidly.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » No one will criticise transparency
yosemitesam1 wrote: » It's a constant figure with or without restrictions.
easypazz wrote: » Nonsense as usual. Stockholm expects herd immunity in weeks, while here we conned into a middle of August plan and lectured about a second wave. We think that most of those are immune from transmission in society, not the workplace. We could reach herd immunity in Stockholm within a matter of weeks.
easypazz wrote: » How is their economy in tatters? Unemployment expected to go from 7 to 10%
easypazz wrote: » In Ireland it is 17% and rising, and projected to hit 22%
easypazz wrote: » GDP in Sweden will take a short term hit but it is expected to bounce back in 2021.
easypazz wrote: » More tosh. You have swallowed Holohans doctrine hook, line and sinker.
easypazz wrote: » We have a right to challenge and question these peoples strategy. The government paniced into this strategy and like you are afraid to accept that there might have been a better way.
easypazz wrote: » Don't be surprised if we are following the Sweden model by July.
easypazz wrote: » I have moved on from observing the lockdown. I am capable of doing so while engaging in social distancing, being sensible and not risking spreading the disease. As are most people, but the government don't want to accept that.
yosemitesam1 wrote: » The real hospitalisation rate is under 1.5%, flu is circa 1% for comparison
Snugglebunnies wrote: » What's that got to do with what I said?
kippy wrote: » The 2m thing will continue to be a recommendation untill one of a few things have happened. It's likely to go on well past the next 6 months. What do you mean that its' unproven?
peasant wrote: » It's the new normal....if you want to be sure that you and others don't die, you keep your distance until the virus is gone. That's as simple and as difficult as it's going to be for the next while. Right now no-one can tell you how long or short that will be, only that they're working on it.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » Do if you have time. Essentially Sweden should now be seeing death rates of about 250k with doctors having to make decisions on who to save and let die. Triage seen in the trenches of WW1.
Snugglebunnies wrote: » ...how can anyone live normally if you have to stay 2 metres from everyone, until when?
Snugglebunnies wrote: » Well obviously people dying bothers me more! But how can anyone live normally if you have to stay 2 metres from everyone, until when?
lawrencesummers wrote: » Out of interest are you comparing the figures of a pandemic with Countermeasure restrictions In place versus a disease without restrictions?
snotboogie wrote: » Anyone hear Newstalk this morning with the HSE executive? She made it clear that there is no timeline to end social distancing and that we will have to get used to a new normal. Annoyingly the host was intent on putting hand washing and social distancing in the same bracket "I guess we'll just all have to get used to washing hands and social distancing" as if they are one in the same. Hand washing is a minor inconvenience which has almost no downside, social distancing will force us to reconsider everything about our society and economy. I've said it over and over and over but people are not grasping the drastic implications of long term social distancing. The restrictions being lifted are a sideshow, a non event for most people. The real question is when we won't need to be 2 metres away from anyone not in our household. Society cannot function anything like it did before with social distancing in place.
