FintanMcluskey wrote: » A gradual return, meaning one of the most restrictive returns in Europe. Construction in Spain is back almost a month, we will be 6 weeks minimum behind Spain with the economic restrictions. 6 weeks after the pubs in Italy open we plan to open barbers.
Deleted User wrote: » I asked for what was being misinterpreted. Not reinterpreted. But sure, fair enough. Ok. Thanks.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » No they havent, because the protest's haven't been allowed in the 1st place??
Deleted User wrote: » What name calling? Oh, and I'm still waiting for you to respond to what I did write originally... As for 12 weeks minimum, realistically, we're looking at a gradual return of people into society and work, as they determine the effects of those stages. Same as was done in China, or other countries, which have seen spikes of infections arising from those relaxations.
RugbyLad11 wrote: » You ask if the laws are being reinterpreted by the police and I gave you a clear example
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » In any case, the police haven't gone to the State and said, "we need prostests banned. Ban protests."
FintanMcluskey wrote: » The removal of the right to protest is surely excessive though?
FintanMcluskey wrote: » Do it for a while? We are looking at 12 weeks minimum. Its primarily affecting nursing and care home settings common sense will allude to the fact that restrictions outside that wont make any difference. As regards hysteria you seem much more wound up with the name calling, deep breathing techniques help with that
Deleted User wrote: » Ahh.. you got me! That is definitely a great example of borderline tyranny and a perfect example of living in a police state. Seriously? Good lord. You're all so desperate to cry outrage that your complaints are incredibly weak. Come on. I'm sure you can all do better than that.
RugbyLad11 wrote: » A few days ago the guards posted on twitter that they turned someone around because they were travelling more than 2km to a parcel motel locker, if people can collect package from a post office why can't they collect from parcel motel? They quickly deleted the tweet after they realized they were in the wrong
Deleted User wrote: » Horse****. I didn't say any such thing. Care to actually deal with what I posted? Of course not.,. but some common sense would be nice. The reasons given for social distancing and cocooning make logical sense. Do it for a while, see what happens, and re-evaluate the situation. Determine the effects of the different waves of the virus and it's effects on the population. Getting hysterical isn't exactly helpful.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » 1-The laws are being misinterpreted
2-Nobody is being dragged off because compliance is 100%
Deleted User wrote: » Are the laws being suspended or reinterpreted by the police? Nope. Are we seeing people being dragged off, beaten up by the police, and getting harsh sentencing? nope. I could go on... but what's the point? You obviously have no idea of what a police state is like.
Deleted User wrote: » Are the laws being suspended or reinterpreted by the police? Nope. Are we seeing people being dragged off, beaten up by the police, and getting harsh sentencing? nope. I could go on... but what's the point?
FintanMcluskey wrote: » That load of waffle you have posted is based on the virus killing everyone.
The usual rhetoric that gets thrown about by people hysterical and bound up with selfish fear. We didnt cure the flu, we possibly wont cure this, should people stay at home until obesity gets them?
Glenomra wrote: » But isn't it a form of police state. Isn't that the reality of the gardai confining people to to a 2 km zone of their own house. In Turkmenistan eg. which is a police state people need police permission to travel from one place to another within the country. It might have been introduced for people's own 'ggod' but the fact remains we are now living in a form of police state.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » That load of waffle you have posted is based on the virus killing everyone. The usual rhetoric that gets thrown about by people hysterical and bound up with selfish fear. We didnt cure the flu, we possibly wont cure this, should people stay at home until obesity gets them?
Deleted User wrote: » Ahh yes, I'm sure the Spanish were thinking something similar for National Women's day and their large marches. That turned out well, didn't it? Public gatherings during Covid is utterly retarded, and puts everyone at risk. People will travel to go to that gathering, congregate with others who are possibly infected, and then return home spreading the virus further. Few Irish people are bothering to wear masks, or gloves when outside. Sure, there's some attempts at social distancing, but there's plenty who are letting it slide as time goes by. Your democratic rights haven't been removed. Since that's the right to vote. I assume you mean your right to do stupid crap that puts other people at risk? Have you any examples where Irish governments have removed civil rights permanently before? hmm? Whereas I think many people are rather selfish, and will complain regardless of what happens. Just looking for something to be offended over, even when it means reducing the risks to other people. Borderline tyranny? Doesn't anyone else find this attitude awfully childish? Is this a millennial thing?
FintanMcluskey wrote: » This is what we need, Gardai in riot gear for whats essentially a pretty peaceful demonstration albeit lead by a bit of a loon.
Every democratic right has been removed and the unfortunate issue is that for evermore those democratic rights can be easily removed in the name of public health.
Personally I think this virus is absolutely not a justification of the removal of those rights. This virus is mostly lethal to those near the end of life and to imprison and restrict the healthy for 6 months is borderline tyranny, especially so, when other counties will have restrictions lifted months earlier
Tell me how wrote: » Surely, by it's very nature, protesting would involve many people in close proximity to each other. That alone, at this point, would indicate that preventing this happening is not excessive.
Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: » By that definition, you could argue that pretty much every country on the planet is a police state. A police state is one where the police actually make or influence the making of the laws. In Ireland, that's definitely not the case. The government are listing to health experts, not the police.
Glenomra wrote: » Isn't that the definition of a police state. Police acting as the arm of a repressive government. Imposing the 2 km zone o behalf of an authoritarian state
FintanMcluskey wrote: » Those judgement's about pay cuts are made by senior executives in an organisation on the higher salaries. Hence why the lower salaries suffer most. Hense why the government ministers refused a pay cut this week. Could you belive that!!!!
stephenjmcd wrote: » Still planning in lifting restrictions from the 11th so not sure what the extended emergency actually covers. Presume it means they can limit who comes into the country etc
Ellie1988 wrote: » Do you think that would that apply to all levels of public servants or just the higher earners? Some PS start on about 25k, seems harsh they would take a cut
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