SNNUS wrote: » We are at War against invisible enemy so far 20,612 casualties and 1,232 deaths So that's over 21'000 deaths? I don't think so. It's not a war so no need for the crude analogy You either learn to live with the virus or stay in until the miracle cure.
gozunda wrote: » More monkey wrenching eh? You realise that this cannot be boiled down to who is dying and who is not. The reason for restrictions is to lower the infection rate and stop the health services being overwhelmed. This is the solution been employed worldwide by many countries - not just Ireland as a means of controlling the disease. Anyone including young people can spread the disease to others including those with long term illnesses - and yes that includes younger people. But sure lets look at the desth rate of just one cohort because well fuk everyone else right?
munsterlegend wrote: » I have no problem with the truth just your senseless musings.
bloodless_coup wrote: » What's the first thing you'll do on the 5th lads? Think I'll drive cross country to see the family, go for a few pints of creamy goodness, visit some beauty spots and go out for a few days meals.
Longing wrote: » Good job Ireland is going to War anytime soon. Physical I mean. Because reading comments here about lifting restrictions is like people running to the enemy with your arms open to Covid 19. We are at War against invisible enemy so far 20,612 casualties and 1,232 deaths in two months. In the last number of weeks we have brought up the heavy artillery (Restrictions) and its working. So why would you lift restrictions for the enemy to regroup and counter attack.
munsterlegend wrote: » Why wait until the 5th if that’s your plan?
the kelt wrote: » No offence lads but the war analogy is probably the stupidest one of the whole lot, even the loony Boris Johnson devotees in the uk have stopped referencing it cos well it’s ridiculous.It’s not a war, you can’t defeat it and they go home, it’s all over let’s have a victory parade. We are going to have to live with it, that’s a fact. Unless they have miraculously developed a vaccine overnight.It’s how we live with it that’s the issue, treating this like a war that you fight against or surrender to is the kind of loony brexit type rhetoric i taught we would t see here in all honesty.In regards to a physical war, to be quite honest the idea of this country going to war whilst being effectively run by an incompetent HSE and the others terrifies me. Here’s one on the whole war, call to arms analogy, according to the Indo this morning 73,000 health staff applied to answer the call for the country yet to date 54 have taken up their posts, it’s like having an army ready to help yet complete incompetence means they haven’t it seems.
UrbanFret wrote: » ls it likely construction will recommence , self builds etc?
road_high wrote: » June or July?!
lawrencesummers wrote: » The only senseless musings going on here are the keyboard experts whose education probably amounts to a bare pass of an arts degree after a repeated leaving cert who think they know more about the spread of contagious viruses because of some HACCP course their fast food employer put them on, they know more than the panel of experts with lifelong careers in medicine that has been assembled from across the country that analyze the statistics from here and The information the WHO give out.
begbysback wrote: » I’d be very surprised if they were limited to 30 mins exercise per day.
Pitch n Putt wrote: » Two sides to your great war analogy Wouldn’t like to be going to war with people that are afraid to fight either eg. Stay at home in their kitchen whilst your country goes down the drain against an enemy that’s of minor danger to healthy people.
Deleted User wrote: » Why not just sacrifice all the vulnerable people then if that's your view? A sort of Logan's Run for the million plus people with pre-exisiting conditions or who are elderly.
SNNUS wrote: » A casualty is a death??????
gozunda wrote: » I'd disagree. Never took you for a Boris fan tbh. But no matter. If the hat fits then wear it. The analogy is closest to home with a small self serving number of individuals suggesting we should throw certain categories of people under the bus and give up even trying to control the rate of infection and stopping the health services been overwhelmed. And yes the analogy stands - i reckon the same would have been cheering on the Vichy republic. But to remind those who've forgotten again - it's not just the HSE and Ireland. This is a global problem and thankfully not one to be decided by self serving idiots.
easypazz wrote: » Nobody is disputing the bit I have highlighted in bold. You are in full meltdown mode now.
Longing wrote: » Originally Posted by SNNUS View Post A casualty is a death?????? You'll hear the word casualty used often for someone killed or injured. But in this case infected/Injured.
gozunda wrote: » And yet you seem to want to throw the same out the window and get rid of the restictions which are helping to reduce the rate of infection and stopping the health service been overwhelmed!
SNNUS wrote: » The balanced posts here all state that we need to protect our elderly and vulnerable as number 1. But when the lock down forever cure people come along it's the first thing they say that they are being thrown under the bus, no compassion etc. Read what people are actually saying. It's ok to have a different view, it's a democracy but it's all tabloid reactions to things that were never suggested. No. 1 protect elderly and vulnerable This can be done without locking away until a vaccine comes along. Livelihoods need to be saved too.
easypazz wrote: » How do you class an infected person as a casualty? There could be 100000 infected people in the country who have had this and not even know it. How are they a casualty? Trying to pretend this is the same as a military war is weird TBH. Some people watching too much CNN.
SNNUS wrote: » Ok that is fair enough but a lot of people never knew they even had the disease so a casualty is a bit strong.
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