lawrencesummers wrote: » That’s not what I posted, but don’t let accuracy cloud your mis placed rage.
Stormyteacup wrote: » Most definitely there is more to this than we are being told. I believe NPHET have decided their policies are reasonably closely aligned with an eradication policy and that they are going for eradication. Disappointingly they have decided not to bring the rest of us in on the plan. A document was presented to NPHET on 10th April asking them to consider an eradication plan rather than current plan of suppression, and flattening of curve, (likely by McConkey). But this plan as pointed out by another poster here relies on All-Ireland compliance, which needs more time. Can't at this point think of any other reason they want to buy more time with so much resistance from general population, along with a strong cohort of 'opposition' politicians voicing dissatisfaction with keeping the economy closed.
OkeyDoke12 wrote: » What are the chances of the 2km restriction being abolished completely tomorrow? I have family who live 60km away who I haven't seen since lockdown began.
NewRed2 wrote: » It was exactly what you posted. And others saw it too and it got reported.
Deleted User wrote: » I can see a need for an emergency budget to be brought in. They’ll be looking to tax the hell out of people still working to help pay for this lockdown and the Covid payments. Everyone in the country is going to be screaming for funds that are just simply no longer available. The banks will need a bailout if too many go on pay holidays and can’t pay. The fallout will kill many more than Covid. I can see some serious carnage and chaos kicking off if things don’t change very soon. Possibly protests or just complete unrest and the gards won’t cope. We’re literally pissing away the future of the country when we should be just looking to protect the elders. Tell them to cocoon.
Nickindublin wrote: » The goal posts have been changed. The medical advisors are supposed to be advisors but from what i can see now they are dictating this.
dashdoll wrote: » How long do people reckon tommorrows extension will be because lets face it, what we are getting is going to be an extension in all but name. While I'm so mindful and worried about the health implications, I am financially CRIPPLED and need to go back to work. I'm more stressed about losing the roof over my head and going into massive debt again like before again to be honest.
peasant wrote: » Wouldn't that be lovely if he were right. But we don't know (yet) because ...no test. And until we can know, I can't see much wrong with being cautious, just in case he isn't right
easypazz wrote: » ~1 million people on some sort of welfare crutch because of this, you can't see much wrong?
EUROPE ECONOMY Sweden had no lockdown but its economy is expected to suffer just as badly as its European neighbors
The deaths were not, officials say, coronavirus deaths. They were therefore other deaths. They must have been unusual deaths, in the sense they occurred with unexpected frequency. Something must have caused them. What else is there but the lockdown? Well, that’s not a proof, of course, but the burden of proof is on those who would defend the lockdown. What are those other deaths? Looking at the breakdowns by age (not shown), most of the spike in all deaths comes from those north of 60, both male and female, with stronger signals increasing with age, on average. Usually, people this age are dying from cancer and heart disease (strokes, CHF, MIs, and so on). Are these people not seeking medical treatment as usual? People being turned away? Stress, panic, and fear increased? Suicides?
Naturally, officials, realizing the importance of an analysis like this, might go back, like our Yale professors, and claim retroactively that the bodies in the secondary spike are all also coronavirus deaths. But that doesn’t solve the problem, because then, given the absence of spikes in places without lockdowns, it looks like the lockdowns might be responsible for extra corona deaths.
[Deleted User] wrote: » I can see a need for an emergency budget to be brought in. They’ll be looking to tax the hell out of people still working to help pay for this lockdown and the Covid payments. Everyone in the country is going to be screaming for funds that are just simply no longer available. The banks will need a bailout if too many go on pay holidays and can’t pay. The fallout will kill many more than Covid. I can see some serious carnage and chaos kicking off if things don’t change very soon. Possibly protests or just complete unrest and the gards won’t cope. We’re literally pissing away the future of the country when we should be just looking to protect the elders. Tell them to cocoon.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » Yes. And the stark reality is the most are risk are end of life patients.
martingriff wrote: » What the hell is an end of life patient
road_high wrote: » The level of delusion is startling alright. People saying what’s another month or two? Rte et al with their “wash your hands” bollox. Virtually only one calling out the madness is Ivan Yates. We’ve a weak finance minister drowned out by the other PR opp clowns
Spanish Eyes wrote: » I’ll wait and see what they come out with tomorrow. There will be some gradual easing of restrictions, and bit by bit it will be incremental. Much as I would really like to return to a pre Covid life on Tuesday, it’s unrealistic.
JayRoc wrote: » The 2km limit is for exercise.
easypazz wrote: » Should be self explanatory.
alwald wrote: » The government/HSE need a couple of weeks to secure a 100K tests a week and reduce the R0 further. Any further restrictions should be adhered to by all, no exception. One way to enforce the restrictions is to stop any type of social welfare benefit to anyone breaking the rules...why should 95% of people risk having these restrictions extended because of a bunch of anti lockdown restrictions merchants?
Spanish Eyes wrote: » Why is posting here at the moment like walking through sludge? Been like that all day, crawling.
