lawrencesummers wrote: » So as an advocate of a second wave being acceptable how many people do you think it is acceptable to dispense with the second time round? Out of interest?
lawrencesummers wrote: » No point it trying to discuss something with a person whose level of maturity, and ability to articulate a point of view can’t extend beyond a playschool insult.
Penfailed wrote: » You obviously don't have kids.
Spencer Brown wrote: » Being a condescending bollox isn't much better.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » Quite possibly that poster may have, and realises its important to ensure kids know that the risk is multiple times less than winning the lotto.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » Quite possibly that poster may have, and realises its important to ensure kids know that the risk is multiple times less than winning the lotto. I hope fear of Covid is not foolishly engrained in kids by people who are projecting personal fears upon children. Coping skills are important for children, unfortunately coping skills are abscent in most of the people in support of the police state, so Im sure mental health and anxiety will skyrocket at a time when the state won't be able to afford support
road_high wrote: » Rte are utter ****e. All they do is repeat government press releases and regal ya with happy stories about Gardai delivering a birthday cake to bridie Murphy who is 90- no mention of the cost to the taxpayer or silly details like that
Ce he sin wrote: » There are quite a few posting here who'd be quite happy to sacrifice anybody over say 80 and/or with underlying health conditions. I'm guessing they're from the younger end of the age spectrum themselves.
FintanMcluskey wrote: » At the same time some 5 week trainee Garda is questioning is Pat feeding cattle in an outfarm in Mayo actually essential work? A fresh discovery is the absolute lack of knowledge of the laws surrounding the government directive at present. A local recycling centre informed my father today that they were open but some of their customers had been instructed to turn around because recycling was not essential, a complete absence of knowledge regarding laws they are implementing
NewRed2 wrote: » He said a factory with 80 positive COVID19 tests and 200 staff out but it doesn't make the news.... Journos these days, they're missing all the stories
KrustyUCC wrote: » Yes exactly From 12th of March to 5th of May is 55 days According to the Irish Times timetable it will be at least another 2 months if you don't live within 20km of your partner That's up to 30th of June which is 111 days How can the government expect any couple to stick to that?
easypazz wrote: » The consensus of most on here is cocoon the over 70's for their own safety until things normalise. I've seen nobody propose letting it rip in the over 80's. Nobody. Not even 1.
DebDynamite wrote: » It’s crazy. A poster a few posts up said Leo intimated in the Dáil today that airlines might be flying in August (i.e. letting in any citizens of any country who will allow them to fly - we are not stopping *them* from coming into our country), but yet we have to until the end of June to travel to see loved ones.
Galwayguy35 wrote: » No, people don't need to relax they need to be told the plan for getting out of this, Varadkar better have something worthwhile to say tomorrow otherwise folks will say fook this and do their own thing.
Nickindublin wrote: » They started ok but have now ended up making a hash of it. There should have been an exit plan and the criteria for exiting published weeks ago. For example when we hit ABC we will reopen so many days ltr So and So and on and on. People need a plan to buy into this. Its being 6 weeks and no plan. Simon Harris said that we would be testing 100000 a week in March. We still wont be doing it in 3 weeks. We were told the the R had to be below 1 to start lifting the lock down and this is the most important criteria which it has being for the last 2 weeks nearly. The biggest failure was the nursing homes. Why were these not in full lock down. Last week they started the spin saying people were not social distancing and that the lock down was going to be extended. I feel like I am back in school and being told I'm getting more detention. I have a big fear that there is more to this than we are being told. We badly need a government and IMO it should have being a Unity government 8 weeks ago. How on earth is Shane Ross still in cabinet and unelected officials determining the course. If you think the financial crash was bad wait until you see this. I fear for what will come. I can see severe social unrest once these restrictions are lifted across Europe. Far right etc
GazzaL wrote: » I know a guy who was stopped and searched bringing a bed for a 90 year old woman who was coming out of hospital. The Garda had the regulations out and wasn't sure so told him to have a think about whether it was an essential service or not. Sheer lunacy. It wasn't a young Garda either!
SNNUS wrote: » Interesting interview, At least to have a counter balance argument to our 6 O'Clock lockdown show.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfN2JWifLCY Professor Johan Giesecke, one of the world’s most senior epidemiologists, advisor to the Swedish Government (he hired Anders Tegnell who is currently directing Swedish strategy), the first Chief Scientist of the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, and an advisor to the director general of the WHO, lays out with typically Swedish bluntness why he thinks: - UK policy on lockdown and other European countries are not evidence-based - The correct policy is to protect the old and the frail only - This will eventually lead to herd immunity as a “by-product” - The initial UK response, before the “180 degree U-turn”, was better - The Imperial College paper was “not very good” and he has never seen an unpublished paper have so much policy impact - The paper was very much too pessimistic - Any such models are a dubious basis for public policy anyway - The flattening of the curve is due to the most vulnerable dying first as much as the lockdown - The results will eventually be similar for all countries - Covid-19 is a “mild disease” and similar to the flu, and it was the novelty of the disease that scared people. - The actual fatality rate of Covid-19 is the region of 0.1% - At least 50% of the population of both the UK and Sweden will be shown to have already had the disease when mass antibody testing becomes available
NewRed2 wrote: » Wow!! This coming from someone who posted that disgusting post earlier saying they talked to a HSE worker yesterday and they died. Did you delete that or did a Mod do it for you? I don't mind if I get a warning for asking that question but it needs to be pointed out that you said that when you're still going around questioning others maturity. I've seen some people post some mad stuff on the internet to try to win an argument they've already lost but not much as bad as what you said. So if I were you I'd ease back on insulting other posters because you don't have a leg to stand on after the depth you sank to earlier sunshine.
SNNUS wrote: » Professor Johan Giesecke {snip}thinks: - At least 50% of the population of both the UK and Sweden will be shown to have already had the disease when mass antibody testing becomes available
Nickindublin wrote: » They started ok but have now ended up making a hash of it. There should have been an exit plan and the criteria for exiting published weeks ago. For example when we hit ABC we will reopen so many days ltr So and So and on and on. People need a plan to buy into this. Its being 6 weeks and no plan. Simon Harris said that we would be testing 100000 a week in March. We still wont be doing it in 3 weeks. We were told the the R had to be below 1 to start lifting the lock down and this is the most important criteria which it has being for the last 2 weeks nearly. The biggest failure was the nursing homes. Why were these not in full lock down. Last week they started the spin saying people were not social distancing and that the lock down was going to be extended. I feel like I am back in school and being told I'm getting more detention. (B)I have a big fear that there is more to this than we are being told.(/B) We badly need a government and IMO it should have being a Unity government 8 weeks ago. How on earth is Shane Ross still in cabinet and unelected officials determining the course. If you think the financial crash was bad wait until you see this. I fear for what will come. I can see severe social unrest once these restrictions are lifted across Europe. Far right etc
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