fatalll wrote: » Not sure what it is like where you live, but in the last 2 weeks I have seen more cars on the road when I do my walk. I noticed this almost 2 weeks ago, so before Dr tony etc mentioned it. You may be right on your point on them seeing what other countries do or how they are faring with opening up etc, Which is probably a good thing as it would be stupid not to look at what other countries are doing and how they are coping with different things. I think when the numbers are right they will ease restrictions. What do you think they should do?
Sweet.Science wrote: » Hahaha i love this narrative now that people have become lax recently Exactly the seed that Dr Tony,Leo and Harris have been planting because they have no clue what they are doing . Come out and tell the truth and say its being extended because we need to see what other countries are doing. Dont be blaming the public
fatalll wrote: » Ah come on now, "too difficult" to stay at home for a few weeks as requested if your lucky and not a HSE worker, Guard, grocery shop worker etc There are lots of things more difficult if you think about it.
easypazz wrote: » I agree with you. But why are you trotting out this nonsense "we are one calendar month behind Spain" then?
GazzaL wrote: » I was chatting to a bank manager yesterday, he said owners of SMEs are crying down the phone to him. The businesses they've worked so hard to build are being destroyed. 50% of our workforce are dependent on handouts from the State. A lot of the temporary job losses are going to become permanent because of the poor decision-making and handing over of power to the HSE. The longer the lockdown continues, the worse it will be.
fatalll wrote: » Ah come on now, "too difficult" to stay at home for a few weeks as requested if your lucky and not a HSE worker, Guard, grocery shop worker etc There are lots of things more difficult if you think about it. Yes its probably annoying, frustrating etc when people are well and healthy. People have been lax for last week to 2 weeks, I understand its frustrating etc. Im going crazy here at home but I'd rather have one proper lockdown than multiple lockdowns over 2 years and have the testing, tracing etc ready to go to get rid of it or reduce it to a number of cases that can be kept on top of. Id hope we ease out of it slowly or maybe fully if numbers are right down straight away as soon as this happens, obviously with social distancing for a while. I hope people try and stick with it for as long as needed, I know there is a balance somewhere with the economy but lives can be saved until this can be lessened.
jonnny68 wrote: » common sense right here, if they dont ease any restrictions in particular the ridiculous 2km one i for one most certainly will not be sticking to it this time around, the lock down fanatics will cry foul but the vast majority of people who have done more than enough want to see restrictions lifted.
bluelamp wrote: » It's time be realistic - if rules and regulations are too difficult to follow, people will stop following them. Human nature. Whether you are a lock down fanatic, or a "just a flu" believer - it's in everyone's interests for these rules to be relaxed slightly or people will stop following any of them. Will a couple who dont live together continue to not see each other? No. Is there any harm in people sitting in an elderly parents garden having a flask of tea a few metres away from them? No. It's time to get real, whether you are 2km for your house or 200km away, you can still follow social distancing measures. I'd put a bet now that the 5th of May will see an easing of restrictions whether its the government, or the people who decide its happening.
HeidiHeidi wrote: » This. Every single day at the start, either Simon Harris or Tony Holohan explained that they didn't want to impose harsher restrictions any earlier than they absolutely had to, because they becoming increasingly hard to stick to as time goes on. How they can now resist saying "I told you so" is beyond me. If I had the energy I'd go back and see who was clamouring for a total lockdown early on, and see if they're the same ones now screaming for the (non-)lockdown to be lifted because they're sick of it. I bet there'd be a lot of crossover.
bluelamp wrote: » It's time to get real, whether you are 2km for your house or 200km away, you can still follow social distancing measures.
Penfailed wrote: » No one knows 'exactly' when the virus arrived anywhere.
lawrencesummers wrote: » If your an accountant As your name suggests why don’t you put a figure on it? How many dead healthcare workers is acceptable to you because some businesses are hitting a bump in the road????
bluelamp wrote: » It's time be realistic - if rules and regulations are too difficult to follow, people will stop following them. Human nature. Whether you are a lock down fanatic, or a "just a flu" believer - it's in everyone's interests for these rules to be relaxed slightly or people will stop following any of them. Will a couple who dont live together continue to not see each other? No. Is there any harm in people sitting in an elderly parents garden having a flask of tea a few metres away from them? No.It's time to get real, whether you are 2km for your house or 200km away, you can still follow social distancing measures. I'd put a bet now that the 5th of May will see an easing of restrictions whether its the government, or the people who decide its happening.
seamus wrote: » There won't be dates at all, as the plan will be goal-driven, not date-driven.
seamus wrote: » There is a concerted effort within our media, to undermine the state's effort and controlling this outbreak. I have no idea where it's coming from, but it's there. DOB's media are bad for it, but there are worse ones.
easypazz wrote: » None of this supports your spurious claim that it stuck Spain first and that we are 1 calendar month behind. You are incorrectly using the date of first confirmed date as being the date it struck a country. Nobody knows when it "struck" Spain, or Ireland, or anywhere else for that matter.
lawrencesummers wrote: » Unfortunately it’s reality, and the posts that belittle the death that this is inflicting on multiple families around the country while advocating a return for money reasons are far more disgusting. Tbh. Economies recover. Dead people dont.
boring accountant wrote: » Is the death of a few healthcare workers from natural causes supposed to justify the impoverishment of an entire country? I was astounded by the number of posters earlier in the thread who admitted to being public sector workers. I’d like to see lockdowners putting their money where their mouth is but I suspect many are insulated from the economic catastrophe looming.
lawrencesummers wrote: » So nobody’s dying, and I’m just making this up? That funeral I should have gone to a forthright ago was a bluff was it?
facehugger99 wrote: » It's not though, it's just some bollox you made up in an effort to sound clever, which backfired badly.
lawrencesummers wrote: » Unfortunately it’s reality, and the posts that belittle the death that this is inflicting on multiple families around the country while advocating a return for money reasons are far more disgusting. Tbh.
GazzaL wrote: » That's a pretty disgusting post tbh.
lawrencesummers wrote: » I wasn’t chatting to a HSE nurse yesterday. She’s dead. Covid-19.
iamwhoiam wrote: » https://extra.ie/2020/04/28/news/irish-news/covid-19-was-present-in-irish-hopitals-two-weeks-before-first-positive-test Four patients treated in ICU in the weeks leading up to the first positive COVID-19 test later tested positive for the disease according to Virgin Media News. The first positive test in Ireland was confirmed on the 29th of February, however, it has now been reported that the virus was in fact present in Ireland for some time before that date I wonder how true this is ? But it seems to have been verified