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John Waters & Gemma O'Doherty to challenge lockdown in the high Court

Long_Wave

Now I know they are going to get a lot of ridicule for this but the lockdown is almost certainly unconstitutional so I wish them luck. https://mobile.twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1250421661062459399

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BENDYBINN

bush wrote: »

Better bin your phone now if your worried about being tracked.

In fairness a drone hovering round your house is taking tracking to a new level...

bush

rusty cole wrote: »

I saw that last night on RTE 1, drones FFS. They also used seismology and your friendly neighborhood Apple to track travel last week.. That is very untrustworthy in my opinion and I for one wont be getting a bloody contact tracing app!

Better bin your phone now if your worried about being tracked.

Shefwedfan

All phones can be tracked, any google device/windows etc are all tracked. Bit late in the day to be complaining about been tracked.

Even all my Alexa devices are listening in, me roaring at kids to get out the door!! all valuable information.....

fatalll

rusty cole wrote: »

I saw that last night on RTE 1, drones FFS. They also used seismology and your friendly neighborhood Apple to track travel last week.. That is very untrustworthy in my opinion and I for one wont be getting a bloody contact tracing app!

Well if you have a smart phone of any sort, you are already traced, because you agreed to the terms when you started the phone for the first time and most apps want access to stuff they shouldnt need but unless you dont acccept but the particularr app wont install then.

Shefwedfan

Sorry I can't find anything on drone been used? can someone point me to what you are talking about?

Allinall

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Why should it be vacant?
If I buy a property tomorrow I decide when I live I it........2days a year or 365 days . My business and nobody else’s.

Not according to the law of the land.

Ethereal Cereal

walshb wrote: »

Exactly

Some of the nonsense and garbage spouted from these eco warrior type civil liberty nuts...

Espousing this utterly unmanageable and out of control ideal that we should all be free to pick and choose what we agree and disagree with...

They are anarchists......masquerading as saviors....

The very same people be banging down the doors of the cop shops at the slightest bit of trouble that comes "their" way.

yea, ok :rolleyes:
One of these things is not like the other, can you tell?

Shefwedfan

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Why should it be vacant?
If I buy a property tomorrow I decide when I live I it........2days a year or 365 days . My business and nobody else’s.

What exactly was the drone for? I havent seen anything about this

BENDYBINN

Effects wrote: »

What's wrong with flying a drone over a vacant property, to make sure it's vacant?

Why should it be vacant?
If I buy a property tomorrow I decide when I live I it........2days a year or 365 days . My business and nobody else’s.

maestroamado

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Waters used to have supporters who liked him because he was for things like Mens Rights and 1950s Catholicism which are very unpopular. Having him write columns about them made them a little more respectable.

Likewise GO'D and anti-immigrant views.

Now that GO'D is obviously mad and Waters is shagging her, they have become a liability to people with those views. Hence the people here saying Waters was a decent skin until just now, and that GO'D is just a sh1t stirrer and has no politics.

They are both in my opinion Gob****es and nothing to do with this case.
Watters said he was campaigning for mens rights as was Bob and some female journalist Carol ??.
Anyway a good friend of mine sent Watters and this Journalist a message.
Neither of them replied.
We are very famous in this country for being involved in good causes but all we really do is talk.

I am not really interested and do not understand any of this as there enough going on.
There has to be something seriously wrong with the judiciary in this Country, the fact that this is dragging on Gardai and supporters on the streets in a time of lockdown is crazy.
What's wrong with our system that we cannot deal in a proper manner without this nonsense.

walshb

Effects wrote: »

What's wrong with flying a drone over a vacant property, to make sure it's vacant?

Exactly

Some of the nonsense and garbage spouted from these eco warrior type civil liberty nuts...

Espousing this utterly unmanageable and out of control ideal that we should all be free to pick and choose what we agree and disagree with...

They are anarchists......masquerading as saviors....

The very same people be banging down the doors of the cop shops at the slightest bit of trouble that comes "their" way.

Effects

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Wexford county council using drones to spy on peoples houses is a bit much.

What's wrong with flying a drone over a vacant property, to make sure it's vacant?

padd b1975

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Waters is a c**t as well. Level-headed my ass....this is the sort of s**t coming from that special breed of a c**t

“I stopped being a journalist because of the LGBT campaign,” Waters announces. “We had a group back in our country, back in the War of Independence, the Black and Tans, you guys sent them over here to us.
“I would prefer them to the people I met last year in the campaign. I would prefer them, bring them back. Bring back the Black and Tans.

Blue haired, white male hating feminist versus Irish hating, post traumatic stress riddled British soldier?

Not much of a choice.

Ash.J.Williams

Mrs Shuttleworth wrote: »

Absolutely.

And it doesn't matter a jot what those shouting "c*nt" at Gemma like a broken record think.

Ultimately a Court - whether in Ireland or Europe - will adjudicate on the validity of this legislation.

gemma is doing the shouting

Mrs Shuttleworth

Clarence Boddiker wrote: »

Nobody at all bothered by the fact that the legislation may be unconstitutional?

Absolutely.

And it doesn't matter a jot what those shouting "c*nt" at Gemma like a broken record think.

Ultimately a Court - whether in Ireland or Europe - will adjudicate on the validity of this legislation.

Ash.J.Williams

Nervous Laugh wrote: »

I'd be interested to know what it is you're doing that would make them proud?

living in ireland ...free?

dam099

BENDYBINN wrote: »

In fairness Gardaí rooting through shopping bags and Wexford county council using drones to spy on peoples houses is a bit much.

The Garda Commissioner has addressed this, there have been anecdotal reports of this happening but if it happened its obviously due to individual Gardai overstepping or being unclear on the regulations as he has publicly said its not permitted.

Shefwedfan

BENDYBINN wrote: »

In fairness Gardaí rooting through shopping bags and Wexford county council using drones to spy on peoples houses is a bit much.

Any of the Garda I have met have been great to be honest, havent seen any of this mentioned?

jmayo

Mr.S wrote: »

**** off

Succinct and straight to the point.

Even if you were selfish enough to agree with their legal challenge to the state wide lockdown to counter the spread of a highly infectious sometimes fatal disease, how could you support or condone the shyte that o'doherty engaged in with those Gardai?

If she had her head anyway screwed on, wasn't a complete ar**hole looking for attention, all she had to do was tell the Garda that she was on the way to court and what her name was.
And that would have been it, the Garda would have said thanks and on your way.
Simple, very simple for anyone else that has been stopped at a checkpoint.
It is being courteous and doesn't cost anything.

But no, she had to be a fooking tool about it and be awkward just for the sake of it.
It is like the fookers in airports giving out to overstretched check-in staff about the fact flights are not running due to Icelandic volcanoe.

You are just being a c**t.

Oh and that term applies to both male and females.

dan1895

rusty cole wrote: »

I saw that last night on RTE 1, drones FFS. They also used seismology and your friendly neighborhood Apple to track travel last week.. That is very untrustworthy in my opinion and I for one wont be getting a bloody contact tracing app!

Smart phones have been tracking people's movement for years now and the data is widely available. That's how the likes of Google maps knows how long your journey will take and which is the fastest route. People as individuals aren't being tracked. The data is just being used to see an increase in footfall. Retail outlets have been doing that for decades.

dan1895

BENDYBINN wrote: »

In fairness Gardaí rooting through shopping bags and Wexford county council using drones to spy on peoples houses is a bit much.

There is an area in Wexford full of holiday homes which have few to no people in them at the moment. The council are using drones to see that there is no increase in people in the area as there shouldn't be more people coming in. So what's the problem?

Cienciano

barney shamrock wrote: »

Waters should have been arrested years ago for composing that Eurovision song.
Talk about crimes against humanity!

He would have finished on zero points only one of the countries had technical difficulties and couldn't phone through so they had a back up country award points instead. So that back up country gave us our only points.
I remember him on the radio going on about how amazing the song was. The guy is touched, it's crazy how newspapers paid him to write articles

Cienciano

The worrying thing is giving them attention. Even for a laugh. This is how people like Alex Jones started. Everyone just laughs at them at the start, but idiots start to believe them and they gain numbers.

Incidentally, I know one of the guys protesting with her. His twitter is full of anti-gay stuff, calling Leo Varadkar a "bumboy" and that sort of stuff.

[Deleted User]

BENDYBINN wrote: »

In fairness Gardaí rooting through shopping bags and Wexford county council using drones to spy on peoples houses is a bit much.

I saw that last night on RTE 1, drones FFS. They also used seismology and your friendly neighborhood Apple to track travel last week.. That is very untrustworthy in my opinion and I for one wont be getting a bloody contact tracing app!

Zubeneschamali

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

And again we have this pretense that Gemma O'Doherty is not far right.

Waters used to have supporters who liked him because he was for things like Mens Rights and 1950s Catholicism which are very unpopular. Having him write columns about them made them a little more respectable.

Likewise GO'D and anti-immigrant views.

Now that GO'D is obviously mad and Waters is shagging her, they have become a liability to people with those views. Hence the people here saying Waters was a decent skin until just now, and that GO'D is just a sh1t stirrer and has no politics.

kowloonkev

BENDYBINN wrote: »

In fairness Gardaí rooting through shopping bags and Wexford county council using drones to spy on peoples houses is a bit much.

Has the context of that actually been revealed? I don't think Gardai are searching everyone's shopping bags. So if you want to use a couple of exceptions to make a sweeping judgement then go ahead and join the tinfoil hat brigade.

world class wreckin’ cru

Long_Wave wrote: »

The men of 1916 would be absolutely disgusted at the mob of Gemma haters who have taken over this country, brainwashed fools sitting on their hole at home on €350 dole perweek.

I'd be interested to know what it is you're doing that would make them proud?

BENDYBINN

In fairness Gardaí rooting through shopping bags and Wexford county council using drones to spy on peoples houses is a bit much.

fallen01angel

Long_Wave wrote: »

The men of 1916 would be absolutely disgusted at the mob of Gemma haters who have taken over this country, brainwashed fools sitting on their hole at home on €350 dole perweek.

Herself and John Waters deserve nothing but contempt for their carry on,a dispicable pair that are well met. Anyone who defends them need to stop and take a long hard look at themselves.

I'm working away as normal thank God so not "sitting on my hole on €350 per week", does that make my opinion more valid?

Shefwedfan

political analyst wrote: »

O'Doherty is a political weathervane - she just goes whichever way the wind blows.

But Waters seems level-headed from what I know about him - he has been consistent in his criticism of family-law courts and the State's power over families, i.e. his opposition to the Children Amendment to the Constitution.

Waters is a c**t as well. Level-headed my ass....this is the sort of s**t coming from that special breed of a c**t

“I stopped being a journalist because of the LGBT campaign,” Waters announces. “We had a group back in our country, back in the War of Independence, the Black and Tans, you guys sent them over here to us.
“I would prefer them to the people I met last year in the campaign. I would prefer them, bring them back. Bring back the Black and Tans.