tobefrank321 wrote: » That doesn't tell us if shutting down the entire country versus properly isolating a narrow section would make a difference in numbers. Sweden have taken the latter approach and now have a lesser death rate than us. Personally I favoured the NZ or Taiwanese effort at containment but that boat has long since sailed. The idea that we can contain this is long past. That leaves living with it until a vaccine and mitigating risks to those most likely to die or end up in ICU in a very specific and targetted way. By the way we are very likely to hit 5000 deaths from this on the current path.
uli84 wrote: » Is there any country actually NOT opening apart from the UK?
growleaves wrote: » What you have is a cause-and-effect assumption - then you've jumped to a conclusion. This cause-and-effect assumption has to be tested by an inquiry, i.e. Were other aggravated factors in place in Lombardy which caused it be particularly bad? To what extent were these factors operative compared to other regions? To what extent had Ireland increased its ICU capacity? etc.
Discodog wrote: » Finland opening all schools on May 15th.
D3V!L wrote: » We're being fed some sh!t from the media and government about this coming weekend, compliance and check points. I'm a key worker and had to go into work for literally 10 minutes this evening. I live in North County Dublin, work in Dublin 1 and passed one single checkpoint which was small and a single Garda car out on patrol during my 50 kilometre round trip. To top it off the M1 was full of cars and trucks on the way into and out of town. Around Drumcondra had a very large footfall and on the way home through Swords , Santry it was the same.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Expected outcome: 5x deaths Action: lockdown Result: 1x deaths Cause: definitely not the lockdown, no evidence, sure that’s what would have happened anyway, sure they changed the models, and the country that was 5x was different anyway
smelly sock wrote: » I wouldn't. The hospitality sector will ramp up gouging in the aftermath of this.
greenfield21 wrote: » I think we're going to see a full lifting of restrictions next week, its the right time the people have had enough. Its time for the big reopening to get the economy back on track.
growleaves wrote: » Lol When it was rising exponentially and people such as yourself were hearing the word "exponential" for the first time, you refused to believe that it would rise, level out and drop of itself - just like every UTRI does year after year, decade after decade including normal strains of influenza and extraordinary diseases like Hong Kong Flu, Asian Flu, encephalitica lethargica. So you bought into the lockdown emotionally and then.. the disease levelled out and dropped just like most other diseases. Emotionally the lockdown has been vindicated in your mind and there's nothing more to be said. Scientifically, we are still at the beginning of comprehension and have to start trying to establish what did and didn't happen and why. Like I said, it has to be studied by someone who understands the subject.
hmmm wrote: » Still, it could be something like that or business failures. I'd give an outdoor restaurant a go if it meant I could get out of the house.
C__MC wrote: » Thinking of more reasons to extend lockdown more like
oceanman wrote: » with the weather we get here! ???
hmmm wrote: » Interesting idea being proposed in New York - close off streets, and allow restaurants to serve guests in the open air. It's ideas like this that we need here too, and businesses should be pushing for.
uli84 wrote: » Why is todays announcement at 8pm? Do they need more time to think what number to come up with?
Deleted User wrote: » Expected outcome: 5x deaths Action: lockdown Result: 1x deaths Cause: definitely not the lockdown, no evidence, sure that’s what would have happened anyway, sure they changed the models, and the country that was 5x was different anyway
SusieBlue wrote: » I see a few TD’s are pleading with Leo & Simon to allow animal grooming facilities open on the 5th. My own dog has a coat that requires grooming every 6 weeks, he was booked in for mid March but the appointment was cancelled because animal groomers were not considered to be an essential service & they had to close. My poor fella is so overdue a grooming at this stage that he’s absolutely miserable, I can’t even take him for long walks on warm days any more because he’s overheating from the weight of his fur. He can barely see, his eyes are so overgrown in long hair. I already tried to get at him with a razor but he wouldn’t let me near him. We have taken to tying the fur on top of his head into a ponytail to keep it out of his eyes and face. He’s very uncomfortable and needs to be seen to asap. Very little human contact is needed to operate these kinds of facilities so there is no reason why they should not be allowed reopen on Tuesday. They absolutely are an essential service and they should never have had to close in the first place.
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